RDV-006 Question???

[spatat]

I am thinking of the RVD 006s. Can someone advise if the “proof” die reverse should have a finished surface similar to a proof? Or should I not get hung up on the surface and just look at AM and designer initials?

How is a roll of proofs created? Does someone break sets and roll or does mint sale proof rolls? Thanks Steve

[jfines69]

I moved your post to its' own thread... You will get more looks and comments... As for your questions I have no idea at this point!!!

[willbrooks]

The answer to your question is no. Even though the rdv6 was intended to be used as a proof reverse in certain years, if it was intentionally or accidentally used as a circulation die, then it would not have received the special polishing/buffing that dies receive for proof coins. They will just look like any other circulation die. Therefore, you will have to rely on the design of the initials and AME for your diagnostics.

[GrumpyEd]

Does someone break sets and roll or does mint sale proof rolls?

They would be put together from broken sets.
Really old stuff like IHCs might have been available as singles but all the modern stuff like memorials would be from broken up sets.
Dealers have reasons to break sets, the big outfits like TV sellers sell a set of something including proofs and might offer to buy something like proof halves or whatever and dealers break sets to fill those orders. They might roll whatever is left and sell rolls. A lot of proof sets sell for barely above face or there is so little demand the dealers have more than they can sell. Seems like some modern complete sets have decent prices, the face value ones are often non silver 60s and lots of the 70s-80s. 90s-2000s are probably broken to fill orders of singles.

[spatat]

Will thanks, sometimes (most of the time) I overlook the obvious. ��. Steve

[spatat]

Ed thanks, it looks to me like the proliferation of sets has become overwhelming. Maybe it is a money-making item for the mint but the small shops would have a problem I would think. Steve

[GrumpyEd]

I think the reasons for the sort of high price on modern sets and near face for some older ones is...

The modern sets cost a lot more to buy, they have more coins in the sets. Some old sets were maybe 6 coins, after state quarters it brings it up to 10 coins plus some years have more (even this year the W cent) plus there's also a silver set. So, most buyers might only buy one set or a regular and a silver and that costs as much as they want to spend. Then there is still some demand because people buy birth year sets for young kids. If people walk into a coin dealer selling their collection it might have one of a modern proof set, so there is some demand and not much supply so prices stay decent.

The years that are less wanted would be stuff like some 70s and early 80s. Those sets were mostly only 6 coins. They were pretty cheap so often people bought a box of 5 sets or 2 boxes of 5. (probably cost them the same as buying one 10 coin set today) and there were more collectors then compared to today. So picture it from the dealers side, every day people bring in their collections from the 70s and 80s. Most are a few buffalos, a few silvers, a few wheats, a can of some circ Kennedys and Ikes. And maybe a box or 2 of 5 proof sets from those dates like 82. The dealers probably already have a stack of 82 proof sets and hardly ever sell one. That's why when they buy those collections they might only pay face for those 82 proof sets or they'll tell the people, we aren't buying them so you should keep them or spend them.