1961-P DDO or S/L Date??

[Guest]

I have several 1961-P's which show a doubling of the 9 & 6 of the date, or am I seeing a Small/Large date condition? I have not read anything that says that there were S/L dates for 1961. Below, I have uploaded four seperate coins.

I also added one other curiosity, I noticed two different styles of nines (see last photo)


Comments please.

Thanks,

-Brooks

[bhp3rd]

There was master doubling common for this coin.

There was master doubling common for this date/mint coin but no lg./sm.
I think there is one or two good true doubled dies but they are not very big or sought out.

[MintyFresh]

There was master doubling common for this date/mint coin but no lg./sm.
I think there is one or two good true doubled dies but they are not very big or sought out.

Thanks. They all look like lg./sm. dates.

[jcuve]

The doubling on the 9 and 6 (which does to a degree look like a SM/LG) is as stated by Ben as master die doubling, listed as MD-1-O-II-C. The blunt 9 is probably a clogged die...

[MintyFresh]

Glogs were a strange fad ;)

Thanks Jason.

I remember clogs - never understood the reason
BTW, what book would be best to understand MS-1-O-II-C's, and the like?

-Brooks

The doubling on the 9 and 6 (which does to a degree look like a SM/LG) is as stated by Ben as master die doubling, listed as MD-1-O-II-C. The blunt 9 is probably a clogged die...

[jcuve]

Thanks Jason.

I remember clogs - never understood the reason
BTW, what book would be best to understand MS-1-O-II-C's, and the like?

-Brooks

MD = Master Die
1 = The first listing
O = Obverse
II = Class II doubling
C = Centered

You should purcahse Welxer & Flynn's updated Authortitive Reference on Lincoln Cents Second Edition and an old copy of The Cherrypicker's Guide to Rare Die Varieties 4th edition.

[MintyFresh]

Both have been ordered... Jean suggest them before Christmas.
I cannot wait!!!

Thanks for your help.

MD = Master Die
1 = The first listing
O = Obverse
II = Class II doubling
C = Centered

You should purcahse Welxer & Flynn's updated Authortitive Reference on Lincoln Cents Second Edition and an old copy of The Cherrypicker's Guide to Rare Die Varieties 4th edition.