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  • sdad

    #1

    Is ther Mint Damage

    I inherited a coin collection for my father. He was a Teller in a bank for many years. He found this penny in a roll of new pennies from the Federal Reserve. I believe the date of the penny is between 1955 and 1960.

    Has anyone seen a mint error penny like this?
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  • DoubleYou
    Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 3629

    #2
    It appears someone took this penny and another penny, laid this penny against something solid, and proceeded to hammer a second penny's head on top of the coin.

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    • jcuve
      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
      • Apr 2008
      • 15458

      #3
      Welcome to LCR!
      Strange coin. Doesn't have the look of a genuine error coin. Wendell may be right, that of course wouldn't explain the coin's presence in a Fed Bank roll, but there may never be an explanation. The questions about the coin specifically are (for me that is): why is the coin distorted; why would there be a reverse image in Lincoln on the reverse if it is not a brockage; how can the image on the obverse have such an odd look? Easiest to answer these questions with the pressed coin hypothesis...



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      • lineop3
        Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 3760

        #4
        Welcome to LCR sdad! Nice first post you have and an interesting one.

        Aisha

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        • sdad

          #5
          additional question

          Would this also the missing part (from about 2 o’clock to about 7 o’clock) on the face of the coin? The coin is noticeable thinner at the edge on that part of the coin.

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          • CCC

            #6
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            • mikediamond
              Paid Member, Error Expert

              • Jan 2008
              • 1104

              #7
              The coin was indeed damaged after the strike. The obverse of another cent was pressed or hammered into the reverse while the obverse rested on a flat surface.

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              • Brian B.
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 90

                #8
                I'd have to disagree on the hammer job, without have this coin in hand to look at, I'd say something eles is going on here. I took the photo over to photoshop and inverted to color. Now look at the lettering in one cent, seems to me it would be flattened and spread out in order for it to be a hammer/ prees job. In order to get the lettering to stay the way it is, it would have to have been applied to a blank planchet first, then stuck with the reverse die, wouldn't you think. It's that, or a very clever photoshop job............Just what I obseve in the photo.
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                • georoxx

                  #9
                  A good point. EPU might have been damaged to a greater degree as well. Let's see what the others might think.

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                  Last edited by Guest; 11-21-2010, 05:20 PM.

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                  • jfines69
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28848

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brian B.
                    I'd have to disagree on the hammer job, without have this coin in hand to look at, I'd say something eles is going on here. I took the photo over to photoshop and inverted to color. Now look at the lettering in one cent, seems to me it would be flattened and spread out in order for it to be a hammer/ prees job. In order to get the lettering to stay the way it is, it would have to have been applied to a blank planchet first, then stuck with the reverse die, wouldn't you think. It's that, or a very clever photoshop job............Just what I obseve in the photo.
                    Can you do that with the OBV and see is any of the lettering remains under the damage???
                    Jim
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                    • jcuve
                      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 15458

                      #11
                      Pressed coins do not always show flattened out design elements - especially in the way we would see them on a true brockage. I see no explanation as to what type of Mint error it could be.

                      Making analysis on the pictures usually does more harm than good. If sdad is so inclined, he can always send the coin to an error specialist for a in hand look. I really do not feel it is necessary after having Mike's comments already in the thread though...



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                      • jfines69
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28848

                        #12
                        You are correct Jason... Continued analysis of the pics will not answer any questions but raise even more and possibly lead to a wrong determination... An in hand look by a pro is the only way... Especially at this point!!!
                        Jim
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                        • sdad

                          #13
                          This coin was found in new roll pennies from the Federal Reserve. The coin is noticeable thinner at about 5 o’clock. How does the pressing the coin cause the damage eon the face of the coin from about 2 o’clock to about 7 o’clock?
                          Where would I find an Error Specialist? Is that the best way to proceed or just assume it is a coin that is pressed?

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                          • DoubleYou
                            Member
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 3629

                            #14
                            Mike Diamond, who posted earlier, is a prominent error specialist and president of the Combined Organizations for Error Collectors of America (CONECA), and he considered it to be PSD.

                            Wendell
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