Die Deterioration Doubling (DDD)

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  • busyeye
    Member
    • May 2011
    • 1920

    #31
    Thank you again Jason and those pictures were spot on great examples.

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    • CranKddd

      #32
      i've been wondering why i find a lot of these lol

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      • Chamfre008
        Banned
        • Nov 2010
        • 59

        #33
        VERY GOOD ILLUSTRATIONS!!!!! WILL CERTAINLY USE THIS INFORMATION AS TO DIFFERNIATE ALL MY 1988 and 1989 Lincoln cents!!!!! I have a "POORS MAN" 1955 Lincoln cent that needs this information!!!!

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        • Amadauss
          Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 832

          #34
          1989P 1DO-005 with class VI extra thickness in the date.

          Great explanation. My question would be on that 1989 that seems to have much thicker numbers for the date and this classification you give it. Are they rare and if so worth more? I seem to have a great deal of these laying around and not just that year. 1964, 1982 and several others. Thanks.

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          • 66-ddr

            #35
            Thanks for the info.

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            • jfines69
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 28848

              #36
              That it awesome Jason... You always have a way to show exactly what your are trying to tell us... Thanks for your time and guidance!!!
              Jim
              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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              • jcuve
                Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                • Apr 2008
                • 15458

                #37
                1943

                Below are several 1943 Lincoln cents.

                A: shows a coin with faint offset Die Deterioration Doubling (DDD) indicated by strong flow lines SE and present on the 4 and the mintmark (S). Being that the doubling is on the mintmark, in the same place and offset in the same direction is indicative of this type of non-collectible doubling.

                B & C: show a coin with plating that has enhanced or somehow caused severe doubling. Whether it is from a corrosive introduced to the coin's surface to remove some of the old plating, or the electroplating that followed, something has caused the coin to have strong doubling on the date. Plating can be glossy, slick and thick, or thin and matte with even streaks throughout the surface. The doubling tends to have an orange peel look to it as opposed to strong flow lines. The plating can be thin enough to retain almost all characteristics of the coin's design as well as die scratches. Doubling involving plating is rampant on eBay- and is often sold as doubled dies or RPMs. Be very cautious when acquiring 1943 doubled dies or RPMs.

                D: shows details of 1943-S DDO-001 for contrast between hub doubling and the previous mentioned forms of doubling.




                Jason Cuvelier


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                CONECA

                (images © Jason Cuvelier 2008-18)___________________

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                • jcuve
                  Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 15458

                  #38
                  Below are closeup shots of typical die wear on nickel or clad coinage. The example used is a Jefferson nickel. The DDD can be present on either side of the device. It can appear mushy, distorted, somewhat like MD. It is often uneven and present with strong flow lines.




                  Jason Cuvelier


                  MadDieClashes.com - ErrorVariety.com
                  TrailDies.com - Error-ref.com - Port.Cuvelier.org
                  CONECA

                  (images © Jason Cuvelier 2008-18)___________________

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                  • flyhi3
                    Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 3702

                    #39
                    Thanks Jason, your posts are always Awesome!!!! Thanks for all your hard work!!!!!

                    Alex
                    Alexander Helzel
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                    • mikediamond
                      Paid Member, Error Expert

                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1104

                      #40
                      I've got an article on DDD coming out in next week's Coin World. Nothing particularly original in it, but it's a useful refresher for folks who don't visit LCR.

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                      • kloccwork419
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 6800

                        #41
                        Originally posted by mikediamond
                        folks who don't visit LCR.

                        ..I thought that was only a myth

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                        • papascoins
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1202

                          #42
                          Jason, INTENSE Photos! Fantastic work! Such a great subject too.
                          Once again, thanks for the 'education'!
                          Mark

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                          • angelt359

                            #43
                            This is exactly what I was lookin for

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                            • celartu
                              Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 815

                              #44
                              Thanks Jason, I was always wrong, thanks again for these concepts

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