1919-P Lincoln cent; MS - ?

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  • trails
    Moderator, Error Expert
    • Feb 2008
    • 3358

    #1

    1919-P Lincoln cent; MS - ?

    I could not resist bidding on this 1919-P Lincoln cent last night. I went in with a $40.00 bid and won it. Seems that everyone was more concerned about bullion coins and just passed this one up.

    BJ Neff
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  • AstroRaider
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 882

    #2
    Nice coin, BJ. Great price.
    Allan (AstroRaider) White
    "I want to know why the universe exists, why there is something greater than nothing." Stephen Hawking

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    • Rollem
      Administrator

      • Feb 2011
      • 2823

      #3
      Very Niiiiice BJ
      "Good People are Great Forums" Rollem

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      • 1sgret

        #4
        Excellent buy and really a nice addition to your collection. CONGRATS!!!

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        • pennies4pennies
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 3293

          #5
          Very nice indeed. Congrats.
          Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others
          http://stores.ebay.com/pennies4pennies

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          • mustbebob
            Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
            • Jul 2008
            • 12758

            #6
            What a beautiful coin. High grade 1919s are pretty scarce and the prices keep going up on them. Congrats BJ.
            Bob Piazza
            Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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            • jcuve
              Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
              • Apr 2008
              • 15458

              #7
              Nice addition BJ!



              Jason Cuvelier


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              • cents1st

                #8
                From the photo the color is very wrong and I see no luster. Looks at least EF and should have luster at least in devices. If it is AU there should be 80% luster, miminum. This is just looking at the photos, the coin my be very different.

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                • rlm's cents
                  Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 453

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cents1st
                  From the photo the color is very wrong and I see no luster. Looks at least EF and should have luster at least in devices. If it is AU there should be 80% luster, miminum. This is just looking at the photos, the coin my be very different.
                  That is an interesting conclusion, but PCGS completely disagrees with it.

                  AU-50 This is for "About Uncirculated" (the grade) and "50" (the numerical designation of that grade). Also called "Almost Uncirculated-50." This is the lowest of the four AU grades, with the others being AU53, AU55, and AU58. Between 50% and 100% of the surfaces will exhibit luster disturbances, and perhaps the only luster still in evidence will be in the protected areas. The high points of the coin will have wear that is easily visible to the naked eye.
                  http://www.pcgs.com/Lingo/

                  And, FWIW, I strongly suspect his color is wrong because he needs to set his white balance. Although I do agree that the coin looks to be low on luster. I have no idea how much is attributable to his picture.
                  http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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                  • jcuve
                    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 15458

                    #10
                    That coin was shot through a filtered light source - I suspect (but would not necessarily bet) that from the flow lines that are visible the coin shows luster in person. The color is off - but it shows little wear; I'm not grading it, but I suspect it is rather nice...



                    Jason Cuvelier


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                    • lineop3
                      Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3760

                      #11
                      What a beauty!

                      Aisha

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                      • wolfkill

                        #12
                        is it worth it???

                        wrong post,sorry
                        Last edited by Guest; 08-12-2011, 07:31 AM. Reason: mistake

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                        • trails
                          Moderator, Error Expert
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 3358

                          #13
                          Interesting conclusions. The coin was graded as a MS-64 by a PCGS grader. As for luster, I do defuse my light source so that you will not get "hot spots", but this also hampers reflected light and does not show the "cart wheel" effect, which is a reflected light phenomena.

                          The color is a different story and the coin does appear to be a bit on the yellowish side. But then again, I have ran across MS-62 to 65 graded coins in this era with the same color. So, come winter FUN, I'll go to a couple of the grading companies and see what is up.

                          BJ Neff
                          ANA, CCC, CONECA, FUN, Fly-In-Club, NLG & "The Error-Variety Education Consortium"

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                          • rlm's cents
                            Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 453

                            #14
                            Originally posted by trails
                            Interesting conclusions. The coin was graded as a MS-64 by a PCGS grader. As for luster, I do defuse my light source so that you will not get "hot spots", but this also hampers reflected light and does not show the "cart wheel" effect, which is a reflected light phenomena.

                            The color is a different story and the coin does appear to be a bit on the yellowish side. But then again, I have ran across MS-62 to 65 graded coins in this era with the same color. So, come winter FUN, I'll go to a couple of the grading companies and see what is up.

                            BJ Neff
                            I can believe 64. As I said, you picture looks low luster, but..... However, I have nearly 1000 Lincolns, probably 1/2 certified and I have never seen one that color. If your Lincoln really looks the proper color on you monitor, I would think you monitor is out of adjustment.
                            http://boards.collectors-society.com.../40238/sig.jpg

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                            • Jim

                              #15
                              love love love it. Congrats Jim

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