What is the best variety or error for cents?

[Maineman750]

I would like make a suggestion to all. Wouldn't it be an improvement for all if negative opinions about particular variety's or errors were witheld unless the OP asked that particular question ? I don't see a benefit in belittling somebody else's coin or collecting tastes. We have people on the forum that spend a lot of time,effort, and money collecting particular dies or errors (1972 die #4, chips,md,etc) Even if you as a collector don't understand it ,I don't see any benefit in treating them in a negative light. We are all Lincoln Cent lovers and if we wish to further the hobby,we at least need to be tolerant,if not enthusiastic about the other guy.Don't like it, don't post...pretty easy and I always try to practice that.

And yes my title was misleading, but it is related and did serve a purpose.

[Rollem]

True so true, I care little for RPMs (but i have many) die cracks the same. I do like ,major DDO DDR and clashes.

But I do love to see nice collection both big and small.

GO FIGURE
James

[Coppertop]

cheers Sir

[seal006]

I would like make a suggestion to all. Wouldn't it be an improvement for all if negative opinions about particular variety's or errors were witheld unless the OP asked that particular question ? I don't see a benefit in belittling somebody else's coin or collecting tastes. We have people on the forum that spend a lot of time,effort, and money collecting particular dies or errors (1972 die #4, chips,md,etc) Even if you as a collector don't understand it ,I don't see any benefit in treating them in a negative light. We are all Lincoln Cent lovers and if we wish to further the hobby,we at least need to be tolerant,if not enthusiastic about the other guy.Don't like it, don't post...pretty easy and I always try to practice that.

And yes my title was misleading, but it is related and did serve a purpose.

Roger, you know firsthand that this is the very reason I let you talk me back to LCR. I applaud your integrity. I am one of those that collect, and yes, sell some of these off the wall type of coins. I actually have people who email me from my website all the time looking for cracks, chips, MD, and the like. These things might be more common than DDO or DDR, but are much less common than your everyday cent. Coin collecting is whatever the collector wants it to be. This is why it is so appealing to a wide variety of people. I have seen some of the posts you are referring to, but not nearly as much as on other forums.

I joined this forum to further my education. I appreciate the patience this forum has shown. I hope to continue learning, maybe even help someone else learn as well. We are lucky to have the most knowledgeable minds in the coin collecting world literally at our fingertips. Folks do not take it for granted.

Now, would someone PLEASE help me pull something worth keeping out of these two worthless Brinks boxes I have been searching all weekend. Jeez, I cannot even find a die crack. UGH!

[papascoins]

Great point Rog. Why wouldn't we want to be the 'best' or the supreme leader in our business? The 'authority', in other words, to turn to for answers on a broad range of topics. I think turning someone off could only lead to further negativity and possibly a bad reputation, hindering our growth, and possibly losing those newcomers to a more helpful site! I feel we already HAVE a great reputation for being 'the authority', and being 'friendly' !
Your point about negative opinions should be heeded by all.
Thanks!

[liveandievarieties]

Wow Roger, I have to admit that it was your goofy title that drew me in to this thread, I did a real double take when I saw your name on it!

Thank you for such a well made point. I don't want for anyone to feel they're being beat up on by the subject matter of this post, but it's important to remember how each of us has been treated by "regular" coin dealers.

When I first began in die varieties at age 12, first find was a 1965 Doubled Die Quarter (FS-101). I excitedly rode my bike to the closest and one of the biggest coin dealers in town. When I showed him what I'd found, he patiently explained that "unless it's as strong as the 1955 penny, it's just spending money". I took his advice. A couple of months later, another dealer in town loaned me a VHS tape of a slide show done by JT Stanton and Bill Fivaz (this was before there was a Cherrypicker's Guide). I was riveted. One of the coins they showed images of was MY QUARTER!! They said it was very rare and had a value of around $500. A few years ago I was lucky enough to be offered another example, circulated and nearly identical to the piece I had found. Not long ago I sold it, in a PCGS XF45 holder for $550.

That experience taught me one of the most important lessons I've ever learned in numismatics. Nobody can be an expert on all areas of a subject as broad as numismatics. Even in die varieties, I have my own area of expertise and there are members here that teach me things on a daily basis. I'll never know it or understand all of it, nobody will. But one important thing to remember is that markets evolve all the time. What may not even be "collectible" right now could be the next hot thing.

I think some of the finds here are silly sometimes, but then I sit back and remember that I'm still referred to as "that dumb error coin guy" locally by several dealers. Well, this dumb coin guy bought his house, paid cash for his boat and every vehicle he's owned in the last three years, because of these dumb coins. I love it!

[tone541]

Best error

IS IT THE 1955 POOR MANS D/D
TONY

[liveandievarieties]

IS IT THE 1955 POOR MANS D/D
TONY

Did you take the time to read the thread at all Tony? Just curious.

[tone541]

errors

most of you guys know by now that i'm a joker. yes i read the tread. REALY ! lighten up alittle and lets all have alittle laugh once in awhile, gives us all a break away from straining our eyes trying to find double dies, varieties.
tony

[liveandievarieties]

Nothing wrong with a healthy sense of humor!

[coinman2009]

Let me be the one to point out that in the closing paragraph of the first post it says the title was misleading but it has a purpose, and them that off the wall answer,of the 55d/d, Wow. Yeah I read the post Chris! Great Post, Well Said Everyone!

[seal006]

And I still haven't found a damn thing worth keeping in either Brinks box. Now it is bedtime. Now I lay me down to sleep. I pray to the Lord for a coin to keep.

[foundinrolls]

Hi All,
I'll speak for myself, as we all do:-)

I don't belittle a coin or a collector for what they choose to collect but I will be realistic. I have had several instances where a collector has shown me a huge collection of coins with minor die chips, Machine Doubling, minor die cracks, etc. etc. with an expectation that they would be able to sell them for a great deal of money when they want to retire. In many cases, the cardboard 2X2s are worth more than the coins that are inside them.

Some of them have also purchased machine doubled coins on eBay for ridiculous money because they were advertised as doubled dies. So not only do they have a collection that is worth only a small sum of money, they have also been ripped off by sellers on auction sites that either by accident or on purpose list machine doubled coins as "rare" doubled dies.

You might argue that it is the collectors duty to learn about what he was collecting or purchasing and that it might be his own fault that his or her collection has very little value. Well, I would counter that I feel that it is my responsibility to educate a collector as to what a coin is and what it might be worth.

If I should ever point out that something is not particularly valuable it is as a way to teach a person something about what they have in their collection. At the same time it allows others to read a thread and make an informed choice as to what they want to collect.

There are people who want to collect the unusual and that may include machine doubled coins and coins with small die chips. That's cool and there is nothing wrong with that whatsoever. If, however someone wants to collect coins that may have a numismatic value somewhere down the line, they can learn by certain posts that some coins have numismatic value and some simply don't.

I have literally seen grown men cry when they are nicely informed that have been ripped off by sellers on ebay for years resulting in losses of thousands of dollars. They are doubly damaged by the fact that coins that they have collected have been misrepresented as something of value.

I always say collect what you like, but folks should be aware of what has numismatic value and what is simply pocket change.

The only way to learn that is to have experienced people share their insights on the subject in a friendly way:-) I always try to be friendly:-)

I therefore think it is better, by far to be honest and not just say something like cool coin, or great find without adding something occasionally to indicate to others something about the cold, hard facts:-), if the cold hard facts might help that person or others.

Thanks,
Bill

[Coppertop]

And I still haven't found a damn thing worth keeping in either Brinks box. Now it is bedtime. Now I lay me down to sleep. I pray to the Lord for a coin to keep.

I'm 45 minutes from philly , I'd do a 1for1 swap if you are down ;) But you'd have to warm me up a bit cause I am a bit OCD about sending you a box with a 92CAM er somethin even though I'd get over it

[Coppertop]

I think some of the finds here are silly sometimes, but then I sit back and remember that I'm still referred to as "that dumb error coin guy" locally by several dealers. Well, this dumb coin guy bought his house, paid cash for his boat and every vehicle he's owned in the last three years, because of these dumb coins. I love it!

I envy you for that sir. To get up everyday and be passionate about something and make a living from it, many dream of