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  • Voyager17
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    • Nov 2011
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    1947s Brass Penny Question?Help.

    Hello Friends,Its been a while...and I have found many nice(1969s DDO/MS-60 or near/Double Ears,TWO Noses) Treasures,... but no way to take a Accurate pic so far.Sorry,No 92 close or 92 D close yet(I saw atleast 70-100 in rolls).This, report out of some 25,000 Pennies since my last post.My Treasure Hunt still going strong....Amen!Just today refered a Entire family via a CampSite who knew nothing about Pennys to this site.They were amazed to find out the worth of a 92 Close AM in High Grades!

    Today,I meet friend (Jeff) who has a few 1947s Brass Pennys,made of Shell Casing VF or Lower Grades (He said..shell casing from WWII).Is there a LINK to show there worth? Sales? Is there a Demand for such a Collectable? He said ,in the 50's people were collecting them a whole lot.Is there DATA to show how many were MINTED in San Francisco? Does someone reading this POST own a 1947s Brass Penny?
    Has Anyone purchased a 1947s Brass Penny?

    GOD BLESS
    Beck
    Lincoln Penny Treasure Hunter

    PS: Even the 2000 Wide is becoming RARE, only 1 out of 25,000 Pennies.My 4th one!
  • liveandievarieties
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    • Feb 2011
    • 6049

    #2
    Buy a redbook. Your answer lies within.
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    • jcuve
      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
      • Apr 2008
      • 15458

      #3
      As far as I understand spent shell casings were used in the composition of Lincoln cents from 1944-47 - I am unaware of those from 1947 being worth a premium.



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      • RWBILLER
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        • Jul 2008
        • 6870

        #4
        Hi
        I did not know that there was shell casing / brass cents in 1947. I guess its possible that some planchets from 1946 were used.
        I have no idea of worth - if it is a brass cent.
        Rog
        Roger
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        • coincollectingenterprises
          Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 444

          #5
          Would the metal composition of this coin be different than a general wheat cent alloy mixture?
          Copper Pennies: coincollectingenterprises.com
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          • RWBILLER
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            • Jul 2008
            • 6870

            #6
            Normal cents were (I believe) 97% copper, 3%zinc, and 2% tin. A brass cent would have no zinc.
            Rog
            Roger
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            • coincollectingenterprises
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              • Feb 2012
              • 444

              #7
              Originally posted by RWBILLER
              Normal cents were (I believe) 97% copper, 3%zinc, and 2% tin. A brass cent would have no zinc.
              Rog
              Thanks for the quick response. So it would be copper and tin only?
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              • liveandievarieties
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                • Feb 2011
                • 6049

                #8
                Guys, look in your REDBOOK. The composition of all years is listed clearly.
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                • RWBILLER
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                  • Jul 2008
                  • 6870

                  #9
                  Hi
                  1944 to 1946 is .950 copper and .50 zinc - Brass
                  1947 to 1958 is .950 copper and .50 copper and zinc - bronze
                  Rog
                  Last edited by RWBILLER; 03-22-2012, 07:03 PM.
                  Roger
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                  • coincollectingenterprises
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                    • Feb 2012
                    • 444

                    #10
                    My 1982 redbook states the cartridges salvaged resulted in including zinc
                    Copper Pennies: coincollectingenterprises.com
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                    • Maineman750
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                      • Apr 2011
                      • 12079

                      #11
                      The difference is a lack of tin in the cartridge case composition....Rog almost had it right but for a typo
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                      • larry

                        #12
                        In 1943 they started making zinc_coated steel cents.No bronze was officially issued in 43. a few spicimens sturck on bronze planchets by error are known to exist.Through a somilar error,a few of the 1944 cents were struck on steel planchets.cartride cases was used from 1944 to 1946.in 1947 they went back to the same alloy of 1864-1942. this book shows the zinc at 2.70 grams and the copper at 3.11. No weight is given on the 43 bronze or the 44 steel cents.It shows that in 1982 the cent went to 2.5 grams.This is coming from the 53rd edition year 2000 red book.i picked up today at a lil drift shop for 5 bucks.It has nothing to say about this 1958D that i have setting on my gun powder scales that show the weight of 2.40 grams.I think the workers back then would use anythang they could reach from time to time to make coins for thier own use.lol

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                        • Voyager17
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                          • Nov 2011
                          • 98

                          #13
                          Friends,Just a bit off the Topic...just got another 1969 s Double Dye.Thank GOD!! This is what really keeps my Treasure HUNT rolling.You never know what you'll find.I always wanted a TWO EYED Linclon.Out of all the Possiblities, I have seen so far of that.This one is the very very BEST yet.Condition low AU Grade/Brown.Doubling on the Ear,visible the little big fat clip on the bottom Edge of the Earlobe.Doubling showing clear on 1969(not machine) ,but not the Mint Mark.LIBERTY and All motto up top shows some Doubling visible.Ofcourse not like the DDO-1 listed here.Well...here,I am rolling into another 25,000 Pennies ..hopefully GODWILLING hit the 1992 Close or 1992 D close.God Bless!

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                          • Maineman750
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                            • Apr 2011
                            • 12079

                            #14
                            Good Luck Voyager !
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                            • wapa
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                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2409

                              #15
                              Originally posted by larry
                              In 1943 they started making zinc_coated steel cents.No bronze was officially issued in 43. a few spicimens sturck on bronze planchets by error are known to exist.Through a somilar error,a few of the 1944 cents were struck on steel planchets.cartride cases was used from 1944 to 1946.in 1947 they went back to the same alloy of 1864-1942. this book shows the zinc at 2.70 grams and the copper at 3.11. No weight is given on the 43 bronze or the 44 steel cents.It shows that in 1982 the cent went to 2.5 grams.This is coming from the 53rd edition year 2000 red book.i picked up today at a lil drift shop for 5 bucks.It has nothing to say about this 1958D that i have setting on my gun powder scales that show the weight of 2.40 grams.I think the workers back then would use anythang they could reach from time to time to make coins for thier own use.lol
                              All this weight stuff is interesting then one comes up with an odd ball. I have a 1983 D that weights in a 2.72 grams. A very heavy for a zinc. The dimensions are normal dia and thickness. My guess it was struck on a thick zinc plancet or a normal zinc planchet and sat in the electroplating step for like 3.5 times longer than a normal cent to build up that additional 0.22 grams of copper. Lots of variables in these things some times.

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