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The Mint will receive 25-100 of the same die (all being the same - error or no error). In other words, if one die has the error, the other 24-99 will have the same error.
The Mint will receive 25-100 of the same die (all being the same - error or no error). In other words, if one die has the error, the other 24-99 will have the same error.
I think your logic is a bit off on this. Yes, many dies would have the same variety if it was on a "master" die to begin with. The varieties we seek come from the making of the "working" dies which are made from the master dies. The anomaly occurs usually when the hubbing of the working die to the master, thus that particulat working die would be the only one with that exact anomaly. Otherwise there would be millions of 1995 DDO#1, and that is just not the case.
"If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."
I guess the spirit of my original post has been lost in the shuffle here. I was hoping some of our esteemed experts would chime in. Bottomline is that I am trying to get people excited about variety coins. Trying to come up with some facts that would show them these gems are far rarer than the coins they have been collecting. I am trying to open their minds to a new direction.
"If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."
I guess the spirit of my original post has been lost in the shuffle here. I was hoping some of our esteemed experts would chime in. Bottomline is that I am trying to get people excited about variety coins. Trying to come up with some facts that would show them these gems are far rarer than the coins they have been collecting. I am trying to open their minds to a new direction.
Yes, it has become lost. I agree with you. It will be an uphill battle against sellers catering to a big investor crowd that is not interested in the coin, but only the grade.
Yes, it has become lost. I agree with you. It will be an uphill battle against sellers catering to a big investor crowd that is not interested in the coin, but only the grade.
WTF?? I am not selling. I have been asked to talk at a coin club meeting about the newest, hottest thing in coin collecting, VARIETIES!!! It was not meant to be philosophical. It was meant to be fact driven information. Not some kind of sales pitch. The past two years I have swarmed shows looking for my little gems. I have caught the eye of some prominent club members and dealers. I was simply asked to make a presentation on what people are just now discovering here in Texas, variety coin collecting.
"If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."
I apologize, again. My example is pretty specific to the 1990 no S. All minting dies would have been the same.
If there were 25, and all 25 were used to full extent, the possible number of those particular proof cents would be 75,000.
AGAIN, No they would not. Coins are not made from master dies. They are made from working dies. Each working die is made from the master dies. If the same master die made 100 working dies, there is a possibility of 100 different working die varieties. If each of those were used to make 100 coins, each of these varieties would have 100 coins just like it.
"If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."
I think most of what you brought to the table is spot on. i just need a better way of translating it to where it makes sense to the uninformed. If you look at it really, this is a revolution that has been in the works for decades. Our predecessors like Wiles, Wexler, Piazza, and more have paved the way for this movement. It really is starting to build tremendously.
"If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."
how can we as variety hunters convince the world that the coins we possess are rarer than these so called key dates in the Lincoln series?
Trying to stay on track with your original question ..something I learned in sales...
I recommend being VISUAL or get them interacted
I think there is a reason why late night restaurants like Denny's Shari's or( not sure what you have down South) are successful with pictures, being that all the half asleep people added in with the half drunk and loaded nit wits that stumble in there at 3AM in fact point to the BIG SLAM or what have you, instead of staring at a bunch of words or things they can't understand.
People are much more receptive in learning with a picture or a painted picture in front of them or something they can relate to. Thats why we have these menus with pictures, in fact you could walk up to any1 and throw something in their hands and say blah blah blah and they will be lost in reality staring at what they are holding for a few seconds.
With that it may be better to explain the rarity by handing them a bucket full of coins and saying , find the 1 coin in there and that is like finding this variety, which could be better than just saying it's 1 coin outa 50,000 of that date or what have you. and I guess you could compare that to key dates?
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