Pre 1920 planchets are a different color?

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  • dabrin
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    • Jan 2013
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    #1

    Pre 1920 planchets are a different color?

    This is my first post here so I'll start with my most pressing question. It seems to me that pre 1920 planchets seem to be yellow'er than those later. Does anyone know why? Thanks ahead for your responses.
  • Antiquity
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    • Jan 2011
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    #2
    As far as I know there was no change in composition until 1943, therefore any change in the color or tone of a coin would be due to its environment, or possibly a cleaned / damaged coin.

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    • Peter
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      • Oct 2012
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      • dabrin
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        • Jan 2013
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        #4
        Thanks guys!

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          • dabrin
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            thanks, I'm looking forward to participating in the forum

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            • jcuve
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              • liveandievarieties
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                • jallengomez
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  I'm not sure about 1920 being the magic number for any change, but it's well known that certain years have a different look to Red coins(some years were more "brassy" than others), and that certain years tended to tone differently than others. In his book, The Complete Guide to Lincoln Cents, David Lange comments on coloration for many of the years and mints. He states that early on the mint also went to outside sources for some of the planchets, and notes that the standards weren't that strict, so I'm sure the exact composition, even though technically 95% Copper and a 5% mixture of Zinc and Tin, varied somewhat. This could account for some of the differences in color.
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                  • dabrin
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                    • Jan 2013
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                    #10
                    Thanks for the very informative post. I'll have to purchase that book.

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                    • GrumpyEd
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                      • Jan 2013
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                      #11
                      In the PCGS "coin grading and counterfeit detection book" they say:

                      "Although the red color varies from year to year and mint to mint, there are full red well struck minimally marked coins known for nearly every issue. Some rare issues such as the 1914-s and 1922 plain coins are nearly impossible to find with full blazing red color -- and obviously a full strike 1922 plain coin is an oxymoron. For some years Lincoln cents have a golden red color and these coins do not have the "blast" of the full red issues of other years."

                      I have seen a lot of dull looking red coins from the teens in slabs. Also a lot of coins from the 30s and older have the woodgrain planchets.

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                      • BadThad
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                        • Jan 2009
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                        #12
                        Welcome to LCR!

                        Planchets vary in composition more than people realize. For most issues I've seen from coppery red to a brassy color and everything in between.....even within the same year and mint. Some of it has to do with how the coin was stored too but planchets do vary.
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                        • SDP73
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                          • duck620
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