How to ID a 1911 D/D RPM #4

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  • WaterSport
    Paid Member

    • Nov 2010
    • 3292

    #1

    How to ID a 1911 D/D RPM #4

    Without further ado, I decided to use my poor pictures to illustrate to you the info you need to find 1911 D/D RPM 4 cents.

    First some education. This is by far the easiest of the 1911 D/D cents to find and ID. It has the most die markers and yet, they will fool you at times. Looking at circulated examples is VERY TOUGH. The reason being the markers tend to disappear. One anomaly of RPM 4 is that the LDS or worn examples tend to enhance the D/D so while you will not see some of the markers, the D/D becomes enlarged towards the bottom of the D. This is why FN 12 and FN 15 examples have been slabbed. But your luck will be found looking at better than XF examples. I posted both a MS and circulated examples for you to study. Sorry the pics are not better.

    Good luck in your search!!!!!

    WS

    Obverse Die markers:



    Note the weakly struck "LI" of Liberty and "IN" of IGWT.
    Look at Lincoln's shoulder and note the die crack running from the rim to the shoulder and it faintly continues to the left across the lower portion of almost the entire bust. CAUTION - RPM #2 also has a bust die crack that is almost exactly in the same location but is slightly different.
    Look at the mint mark and it pretty much looks like that in the CPG. The dot in the upper right will slowly disappear with die state wear and the bottom will become more noticeable.

    Reverse markers:



    You only got one - a rim to wheatear die break, right side, pointing downwards to the 3rd kernel
  • eaxtellcoin
    Paid Member

    • Jan 2008
    • 2086

    #2
    I'm going to throw something in on this thread. I will post a few pics for reference. the first pic is 1911-D WRPM#4 stage "D" the second picture is an actual RPM#4 Stage "A". I want everyone to notice the placement of the primary "D" with relation to the date, and the placement of the secondary "D" in both pics. Notice they are slightly different? If you look at the pics in "The Comprehensive guide to Lincoln cent Repunched Mintmark Varieties" 1909-1939 you will notice the placement of stage A,B,C, are all spot on but the Stage "D" is slightly off also.

    If you send the Stage "D" to Coneca as I have. It will be returned as die abrasion!

    If someone has an earlier die stage of the Stage "D" placement with a strong RPM coin, then it's got to be sent in.

    Sorry the pics are so dark - - through slabs...
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