What is more desired errors or die varieties?

[Jacob]

This crossed my mind numerous times ( what is more desired errors or die varieties). I see errors sell at a higher premium than die varieties but does that mean its more collectible than doubled dies? When errors happen theres less coins available but when a doubled die happens its usually a full run. Is it easier to sell an error coin than a doubled die? Would people prefer a Cud over a 2011 1DO-004? I remember awhile back when selling coins on ebay cuds, in collar double struck, capped dies, etc sold and couldn't even sell a MS 1982 1DO-002 for 10 dollars. If I was to hold onto a few coins for myself should I start holding onto Cuds and others when I come across them again if I do. Do you think its better to hold onto certain errors for the future and see if it goes up in value? Just curious on what others think of this.

[onecent1909]

My opinion... both.. all... what ever you want...
some people like errors over varieties... some people..(like me) like varieties over errors...
it is what you like..
pennies or nickels or dollars... proof or business strike.... early bust halves or modern commemorative...errors or varieties...
some errors would bring a higher price than some varieties...... but some varieties would bring higher prices than some errors...

let me ask you.. a 1981 CUD or a 1955 ddo die 1?
which would you want? which would you keep?
how about a cent struck on a silver dime or a 1972 ddo die 3?

[Jacob]

let me ask you.. a 1981 CUD or a 1955 ddo die 1?
which would you want? which would you keep?
how about a cent struck on a silver dime or a 1972 ddo die 3?

To make it more interesting:
1983 copper cent or a 1982 Small Date DDR in MS65.
or a 1943 Copper or a 1969S 1DO-001 in MS66.
It just seemed that the majority of people are willing to drop a lot of money on an error quicker than a Doubled die. When I was talking about this just trying to figure out the majority not just myself.

[mustbebob]

I think it is a legitimate question. We have folks who covet errors, and others who would prefer varieties. You also have folks (like me) who will collect both. With either of them, it is what I am willing to put out for a particular coin that is a key to whether or not I add it to my collection. I guess if I were put in a position where I had to have one or the other, I would personally choose varieties.

[coppercoins]

You are actually referring to two separate collectible markets that cannot really be compared.

[mustbebob]

It wasn't a comparison between the two, but a choice of what is more desired to a collector.

[liveandievarieties]

Tough question to define- we deal in "errors & varieties". Most of our customers collect one or the other. Personally, because we deal in far more die varieties than errors, it seems that there are a lot more collectors of die varieties. Die varieties bring a strong premium when in a PCGS holder, I can't say the same for errors.

BUT- I'm friends with several full-time error dealers who attend most major shows. I can only think of one die variety dealer who does nearly the same amount of shows- and even then he depends on a lot of VAMs to be able to cover his costs.

I'm not sure that there will be a distinct preference emerge. If you did a poll, die varieties would win out on this site, but probably errors on the CONECA site... not even sure how to get an accurate across the board answer on your question Jake.

Me, personally- die varieties is where it's at. You're pretty unlikely to find a $100,000 error in change or a BU roll- but it could still happen (and has) with a die variety.

[BadThad]

I like both - totally depends on the error/variety/coin. I'm not much into the minor varieties/errors, especially if they are ugly or problem coins. I like the stuff that makes you say "wow, that's cool".

[jcuve]

I see this question two ways. Which do you prefer personally, if either - or which is more coveted.
I collect both, but prefer varieties.

Beyond that I don't think they cannot be compared. Errors are mostly a buying and selling phenomena. Some errors, like off-metal errors, are bought by collectors with deep deep pockets. Does that mean that off-metal errors are more coveted because they command such ridiculous prices? Varieties can be found with far more ease - with new listings often. How many people nationally go through quantities of change looking for varieties? Way more than errors. But errors are so infrequently found by the same methods. So how would you gauge that bigger question, "What is more desired"? I do not think you can.

[coppercoins]

Funny, no matter how many times I read the original post, it looks like a comparison between the two.

There is a rather narrow market acceptance for both, although each is a very different market with a very different set of collectors. They are often clumped together, which frustrates me in many ways...not because I don't think errors have their place (they indeed definitely do). I just get tired of having to dig through them to find die varieties on eBay and such, where they are clumped together as if they were the same thing. I personally think they are as different as silver dollars are to $1 gold coins.

Of course all of this is completely aside from the fact that many dealers and collectors interchange the terms as if they both defined the same things. I will leave that subject to a different discussion.

Anyway, comparing which is more desirable to collectors is a shot in the dark, and that's how I read the initial post in this thread. If this was not the intent, perhaps the OP may consider clarification.

[Maineman750]

This is an easy question. Ask a variety collector and he'll say varieties, ask an error collector and he'll say errors,ask any sane person and he'll say "Huh ?"

[Peter]

Ask Roger and he'll tell you after he gets back from fishing!

[Arjohn]

The correct answer - seems to be...


YES

[liveandievarieties]

Jake- can you provide a little clarification on your question?

Are you wondering if more people collect errors or varieties?
Or the preference of members here?
Or which are better to collect?

[Jacob]

Jake- can you provide a little clarification on your question?

Are you wondering if more people collect errors or varieties?
Or the preference of members here?
Or which are better to collect?

To clarify it for you yes was wondering if more people collect errors than die varieties. Not between the members here because its obvious more people collect die varieties on here. And yes in the long haul what ones are better to collect.