Mint or no mint

[Sunni67]

So tell me, do the new 2016&2017 have a mint mark ?

[jfines69]

The Denver and San Fran LCs all have MMs except for the 1922 LCs when Denver was the only mint that produced LCs... Some of those have no or weak MMs... The only Philly LC with a MM is the 2017P... Hope that helps a little!!!

[Sunni67]

[Sunni67]

Hi everyone,

So upon the experts opinions and advice I have ordered the books that was recommended by you all.
Thank you,
my Question tonight is: how is one to know if a penny is suppose to have a s mint if there is no mint?

[enamel7]

Because they have the S mint mark if they're are from San Francisco. After 1974 all S mint mark coins are proofs only, so you should be able to tell the difference. There were a few proofs that didn't have the mint mark, but they are rare and only found in proof sets. One more thing. They aren't pennies, they are cents. Great Britain made pennies.

[jfines69]

Hi everyone,

So upon the experts opinions and advice I have ordered the books that was recommended by you all.
Thank you,
my Question tonight is: how is one to know if a penny is suppose to have a s mint if there is no mint?

Cool... Sounds like you are really getting the collecting bug bad but in a good way Enamel is correct on the cent vs penny in a technical way but lots of folks use both... I guess it has to do with ones preference for technicality... If memory serves me correct after 1974 (Not even close to sure about pre 1975) the proofs also have different textures - Frosted devices and mirror finish!!!

[GrumpyEd]

my Question tonight is: how is one to know if a penny is suppose to have a s mint if there is no mint?

There are a lot of threads online where people find 1990 plains and think they struck it rich.
I'm assuming they list the 1990 "no S proof" in some guides without enough info or it gets misinterpreted.

There were billions of 1990 plain cents made.
There were a few million proof sets with the proof S mint cent.
In those sets there were a few dozen that did not have the S and are worth a lot.

Proof is not a grade, it is a method of manufacturing.
The nicest most shiny 1990 plain cent from a mint set or a bankroll is still a bus strike.
Only the ones in proof sets are proofs. Even if a proof got circulated or beaten or whatever they stay a proof because proof is not a grade.

The odds of finding a 1990 no S proof in circulation is about zero, if you find a normal 1990-S proof that got broken out and spent that is lucky. If anyone ever finds one of the rare no S proofs in circulation that would be a miracle, lets say if there were 20 no S proofs out of 2 million proofs (really rough numbers) that means one in a hundred thousand of the proofs would be a no S. That's out of the proofs and none were circulated unless someone broke open their set and spent them. There are several billion regular 1990 plain cents in circulation.

There are other known no S proof coins.

Best place to look is in proof sets.