Re-engraving

[TPring]

Just curious:

This is a 1959d RPM I am working on and noticed the odd border just to the west of the date. Looks somewhat like re-engraving [to me] but, not sure if they do that on business strikes and if it adds any value to the coin [if it is re-engraved].

[VAB2013]

Nice RPM TPring! I'm thinking that is not re-engraving, but MD. I checked Wexler's Obverse Design Varieties and don't see anything about this on 59's and checked Bob's Master Die Doubling list, not seeing anything there either. Let's see what the guys say.

On Wexler's link above, if you download the Word doc there's a lot more explanation.

[TPring]

Nice RPM TPring! I'm thinking that is not re-engraving, but MD. I checked Wexler's Obverse Design Varieties and don't see anything about this on 59's and checked Bob's Master Die Doubling list, not seeing anything there either. Let's see what the guys say.

On Wexler's link above, if you download the Word doc there's a lot more explanation.

Thanks -- That's a boatload of detailed info! Looks like Lincoln has had more work done than Joan Rivers [rimshot].


I know that a couple of '53 proofs were re-engraved but not listed in the info.


*Next I have to figure out this RPM and nothing is jumping out at me.


edit: RPM ==>> 1mm-035

[Petespockets55]

That is a nice RPM T. Congrats on the find.

Not sure what to make of the anomaly. Interesting that the anomaly follows to the east of the design from the tie down but it appears to continue to the west of the left side of the edge of the profile where you have the bottom red arrow in the last image.

I'm wondering if this is an example of a crack developing (the top smoothed from circulation?) before the large die chip shows up. Quite a few of the mid to late '50's had issues with large die chips forming along the eastern edge of the bow tie. (I use to think they were re-engraved until I learned of the die chips affecting this area.)

[makecents]

Nice RPM T!! I would have to agree with Viv. Here is what the 53P you spoke of looks like. Much sharper with more detail. Link (http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...3&d=1524364839)

[jfines69]

I'm in with the MD... Looks like a bit of slide type from mostly east to west... The ridge folded over the top along the vest and bow tie also appears to be along the east side of the 1, the west inside of the 9s loop and the west side of the 5s upper notch... There were several years that had the re engraved/retouched dies... There are several years in the 30s, 1944 (dates) and a couple of other years in the 40s as well as the CONECA listed 53s... Lets not forget the 71 bow tie - ODV-028 http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20D...0Varieties.htm I think you are correct on the RPM of CCs 035 http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/d...&die_state=eds a little difficult to tell for sure due to light reflection off the lower serif and the east side of the 5... Looks like you may have remnants of the die abrasions just east of the 5 most notable is the one pointed out on CC... CCs is an EDS and by the looks of it yours is a later die state!!!

[jallengomez]

Ejection doubling(which is a form of MD) was very common on 1959 LMCs, and given the metal appears to be slightly pushed, I think this is the most likely candidate. As was also mentioned, this is a very common area for die cracks to form and without seeing clear surface details I couldn't rule that out.

[TPring]

I am sure at least some of it is MD but, there are a couple of spots where the line deviates from the norm. One is, as PetesPocket55 pointed out, near the bottom arrow (a little whoop-de-do) and the middle arrow is near another abnormality.

The reason I asked about re-engraving is because it looks like the major part is localized to the same area as the '53 proof re-engraving.



Does re-engraving occur on business strikes? Any value-added?


I will try to get a better pic.


Thanks,

[jfines69]

Here is some info from Error Ref on the 44s http://www.error-ref.com/retouching_..._lincoln_cent/ http://www.error-ref.com/retouching_the_date/ There was also trenching on coins around parts of and the entire bust http://www.error-ref.com/retouching-of-design-elements/