2008 P Doubling or just possible corrosion?

[makecents]

I found this guy with something that jumped out right below the ear. It doesn't really look like a doubled ear but would appear to be a bulge of sorts. I did the toothpick test and nothing changed. I took four shots with lighting from different angles but it didn't go away or change the appearance much.
When I was doing the full coin pics, I noticed corrosion in almost the exact corresponding spot on the reverse, it's a little off but close. Let me know what you guys think.

LINK FOR OVERLAY (http://www.maddieclashes.com/wp-cont...newWHITEmd.jpg)

Thanks for looking, Jon.

[Maineman750]

Looks like it may be a die clash

[GrumpyEd]

Are you thinking it's from a clash?

[makecents]

Looks like it may be a die clash

Thanks Roger!! You and Ed were on the same page I guess. So you think it's a bay?

[makecents]

Are you thinking it's from a clash?

I actually wasn't, thought doubling or corrosion from the backside coming through. I used Jason's overlay from maddieclashes because they look so good but I think you and Roger are on to something. Nothing listed either. Cool!! Thanks Ed!!

[Maineman750]

Thanks Roger!! You and Ed were on the same page I guess. So you think it's a bay?

Yes....I found tons of these in 2006

[makecents]

Yes....I found tons of these in 2006

Very cool!! I've never had anything to send to maddieclashes.com before! Thank you sir!!

[GrumpyEd]

The reason is, they made the relief very slight on the modern US coins. I think the reasoning is the less there is to strike up the less the dies and everything need to work and they last longer. They made the design so it looks like the bust is raised a lot but in reality it's mostly illusion so those areas like below the ear aren't recessed very much into the die and can still get clashed and they do.

[Petespockets55]

They sure grab your attention, huh, Jon.
Yep, I agree whole heartedly because when I found my first one (a 2008 also) and posted it here I thought it was an extra ear.
I think I made quite the horses patootie out of myself saying it was a column when it is from a bay.

[makecents]

They sure grab your attention, huh, Jon.
Yep, I agree whole heartedly because when I found my first one (a 2008 also) and posted it here I thought it was an extra ear .
I think I made quite the horses patootie out of myself saying it was a column when it is from a bay.

Cool!! Did you send it to MDC? I didn't see anything listed.

[Petespockets55]

Cool!! Did you send it to MDC? I didn't see anything listed.

Nope. From what Jim said they were fairly common in 2008 and didn't even think about it.
Be interesting to see what transpires if you do.

[makecents]

The reason is, they made the relief very slight on the modern US coins. I think the reasoning is the less there is to strike up the less the dies and everything need to work and they last longer. They made the design so it looks like the bust is raised a lot but in reality it's mostly illusion so those areas like below the ear aren't recessed very much into the die and can still get clashed and they do.

Ed, I have, since I've come to this site, always looked at you as the Master Sargent who has been with it for decades, not needing to have any pomp. You are the one, if folks pay attention, will learn more from than they could ever know from multiple learned folks. Thank you. I have said it before, you have INSANE knowledge!

[jfines69]

In 2006, 2007 and 2008 there were a lot of these clashes just below the ear... At first I could not see how it could be from a clash but then I saw the light (5 giga watt )... As the dies wear they become convex in shape... The outer edges wear away faster than the center of the die... This in turn causes the center to be higher than the edges and when a clash occurs it will be stronger toward the center than at the outer edges with some clashes strictly toward the center... Add in some tilted or misaligned dies and things get goofy Notice how this 2009 http://www.maddieclashes.com/tdc-1c-2009pl-01/ has better clash marks near the center and nothing at the edges... Hope that helps a bit!!!