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  • hbarbee
    Member
    • Feb 2019
    • 121

    #1

    1914D Grade and Mintmark

    Is the grade assigned to this coin appropriate? I think it could have made a MS on a lucky day Also, is there something odd with the mint mark or is it just an optical illusion on the photo?
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  • makecents
    Paid Member

    • Jun 2017
    • 11038

    #2
    I personally feel the grade is appropriate given the multiple hits but a very nice looking coin and a CAC label! The mm and date look to have slide MD.

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    • willbrooks
      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

      • Jan 2012
      • 9477

      #3
      It is die #3. Looks like there is enough wear on the ear to warrant a 58 in my opinion, but let's wait for Ed's opinion.
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      • WaterSport
        Paid Member

        • Nov 2010
        • 3292

        #4
        Looks OK by me.

        WS

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        • Edthelorax
          Member
          • Feb 2019
          • 124

          #5
          I would say the same about slight MD even though the TV makes it look like a true DD. The MM is fine IMO.
          It looks almost exactly like the one I sold that came from the guy with the Whitman. The only difference may be luster breaks in the fields.
          The "wear" could be counted as album rub on a different day.
          1914-dTVboth.jpg
          http://www.silverstocker.com/forum/index.php

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          • VAB2013
            Forum Ambassador
            • Nov 2013
            • 12351

            #6
            Great looking 1914D wheat hbarbee! I'm confused about Will's statement about "die #3 though. I could not find a listed RPM or DD for 1914D.

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            • makecents
              Paid Member

              • Jun 2017
              • 11038

              #7
              Originally posted by VAB2013
              Great looking 1914D wheat hbarbee! I'm confused about Will's statement about "die #3 though. I could not find a listed RPM or DD for 1914D.
              It's not a variety Viv. (https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...OPIC_ID=252833) There were so few dies, they are listed by number.



              I'll have to say though Will, I like die 2 better.
              Last edited by makecents; 03-06-2019, 07:36 PM.

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              • VAB2013
                Forum Ambassador
                • Nov 2013
                • 12351

                #8
                Originally posted by makecents
                It's not a variety Viv. (https://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...OPIC_ID=252833) There were so few dies, they are listed by number.
                Thank you very much Jon for the info and link! Geez and I thought there was a lot to know about Memorials, wheats are a whole new ballgame!

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                • makecents
                  Paid Member

                  • Jun 2017
                  • 11038

                  #9
                  Originally posted by VAB2013
                  Thank you very much Jon for the info and link! Geez and I thought there was a lot to know about Memorials, wheats are a whole new ballgame!
                  I'm learning with ya!!

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                  • hbarbee
                    Member
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 121

                    #10
                    I just purchase the coin today. I will let you know if my opinion changes when I look at it.

                    This the the first time I have bought a cent in less than MS. My collection is all MS62 or better unless I have mis-graded the non-certified pieces. I always try to follow the TPG standards to the best of my ability with a scope and then lower the MS grade by a point to be safe.

                    Unfortunately the 1914D and 1922 Die Pair 2 are priced beyond my willingness to spend in MS. Also, a lot of the MS coins offered have worse eye appeal than this one. I still need the 1922 to be complete except for the pre-1917 proofs (all mint issues and a key example of each type of variety).

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                    • hbarbee
                      Member
                      • Feb 2019
                      • 121

                      #11
                      Forgot to thank you all for the inputs. It makes one feel better to get views from folks with lots of experience.

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                      • GrumpyEd
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7229

                        #12
                        It's nice as a 55, I could see it as a 58.

                        I think a few dings and a tiny bit of wear on the ear held it back from 58.

                        Brown cents in AU to 63 are really hard to predict.

                        I think the reasoning is a 58 is really a top notch circ in the highest circ grade so it needs to be very nice (and the price frenzy created for 58s by the "everyman registry sets" where the goal is getting the highest set with no coin over a 58).
                        So the bar is high on the 58s.

                        Things flip in the lower MS grades because people look at a 60-61-62 as being a low unc so it gets a lot of slack, the bar is lower so maybe it just needs luster to get those lower unc grades but can have more issues, dings and things that a 58 can't have.

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                        • Petespockets55
                          Paid Member

                          • Dec 2014
                          • 6890

                          #13
                          Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                          It's nice as a 55, I could see it as a 58…….....
                          LOL. Good call Ed about seeing it as a 58 ...... Cause that's how PCGS saw it too.

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                          • scubalou
                            Member
                            • Feb 2019
                            • 653

                            #14
                            Just a fly on the wall. Nice coin.

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                            • GrumpyEd
                              Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7229

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Petespockets55
                              LOL. Good call Ed about seeing it as a 58 ...... Cause that's how PCGS saw it too.
                              That's funny, somehow I read it as a 55 and thought it could be a 58...

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