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  • Rowdyricster
    Paid Member

    • Feb 2019
    • 823

    #1

    Strike-Through Error?

    I've culled a lot of coins that, to me, have obvious PSD. This one is a bit different. On the OBV it appears there was a strike-through of something. It was something curved. It begins at the bottom of Lincoln's coat and curves up impacting the lower edge of the D, then continues curving up, slicing through the 3. It continues up, but from there it is less pronounced.

    On the REV, I don't know if that would be a strike-through, but it appears to be parts of letters in the rim above AMER.

    I've spent some time today on the internet trying to find anything similar, but to no avail. Any ideas?

    1993 D.jpg1993 D (Obv) Close up.jpg1993 D (Rev).jpg1993 D (Rev) Close up.jpg
  • enamel7
    Paid Member

    • Apr 2009
    • 4047

    #2
    Chances are if it's anything it's just where another coin was pressed into it. That's why the rim is flattened in areas.

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    • willbrooks
      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

      • Jan 2012
      • 9477

      #3
      I agree. It is damage. Someone may have tried to press another cent into it using a pliers or vise. That would explain what we see on both sides.
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      • jfines69
        Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 28848

        #4
        Looks like a vice job a.k.a. Garage Job to me also... Here is some info from our Glossary -

        Garage Job: Also called a squeeze job, vice job, or hammer job, this is intentional post-strike damage when a coin is smashed against another coin or object, usually in an attempt to make it look like a genuine mint error. When squeezed or smashed against another coin, a mirror-image in reverse relief of each coin’s devices will transfer onto the other. Below you can see a mirrored incuse LIBERTY on the coin as the result of being pressed into another cent.


        Here is some info from Error Ref http://www.error-ref.com/?s=vice+job Hope that helps a bit!!!
        Last edited by jfines69; 03-17-2019, 03:48 AM.
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        • willbrooks
          Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

          • Jan 2012
          • 9477

          #5
          Originally posted by jfines69
          Looks like a vice job a.k.a. Garage Jon to me also... Here is some info from our Glossary -

          Garage Job: Also called a squeeze job, vice job, or hammer job, this is intentional post-strike damage when a coin is smashed against another coin or object, usually in an attempt to make it look like a genuine mint error. When squeezed or smashed against another coin, a mirror-image in reverse relief of each coin’s devices will transfer onto the other. Below you can see a mirrored incuse LIBERTY on the coin as the result of being pressed into another cent.


          Here is some info from Error Ref http://www.error-ref.com/?s=vice+job Hope that helps a bit!!!
          Damn, I spelled vise wrong in that entry.
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          • Rowdyricster
            Paid Member

            • Feb 2019
            • 823

            #6
            Originally posted by jfines69
            Looks like a vice job a.k.a. Garage Jon to me also... Here is some info from our Glossary -

            Garage Job: Also called a squeeze job, vice job, or hammer job, this is intentional post-strike damage when a coin is smashed against another coin or object, usually in an attempt to make it look like a genuine mint error. When squeezed or smashed against another coin, a mirror-image in reverse relief of each coin’s devices will transfer onto the other. Below you can see a mirrored incuse LIBERTY on the coin as the result of being pressed into another cent.


            Here is some info from Error Ref http://www.error-ref.com/?s=vice+job Hope that helps a bit!!!
            It certainly does help, and it even makes cents to me. So much to learn...thanks for taking the time to respond.

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            • makecents
              Paid Member

              • Jun 2017
              • 11038

              #7
              Originally posted by willbrooks
              Damn, I spelled vise wrong in that entry.
              I only have one of these, (vise) but I have a lot of these, (vice)!!

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              • GrumpyEd
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 7229

                #8
                Looks like damage. It might not even be intentional.
                The table is rocking, one cent isn't enough but 2 works. Next thing you know someone picks up 2 cents and they look like that.

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                • jfines69
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by willbrooks
                  Damn, I spelled vise wrong in that entry.
                  I just noticed that I stated a Garage Jon instead of Job which is ok if needing to go to the head but not for the intended context
                  Jim
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                  • jfines69
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28848

                    #10
                    Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                    Looks like damage. It might not even be intentional.
                    The table is rocking, one cent isn't enough but 2 works. Next thing you know someone picks up 2 cents and they look like that.
                    Sounds like a person with that experience It does work
                    Jim
                    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                    • VAB2013
                      Forum Ambassador
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 12351

                      #11
                      Well, since we are picking on words here... the proper term is "struck through". The way I remember this is Will saying in a thread a long time ago... this is a strike through "s-t-r-i-k-e t-h-r-o-u-g-h" (I couldn't actually place the strike through the letters)

                      Struck Through: A struck-though error happens when a foreign object gets between the dies and an unstruck planchet. When the dies strike the coin, the foreign object will also be struck into it, leaving an incuse impression in the coin. The “foreign object” may be anything, such as cloth, wire, grease, dirt, metal scraps, or even another coin which had stuck to one of the dies, called a die cap.

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                      • willbrooks
                        Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                        • Jan 2012
                        • 9477

                        #12
                        Originally posted by VAB2013
                        Well, since we are picking on words here... the proper term is "struck through". The way I remember this is Will saying in a thread a long time ago... this is a strike through "s-t-r-i-k-e t-h-r-o-u-g-h" (I couldn't actually place the strike through the letters)

                        Struck Through: A struck-though error happens when a foreign object gets between the dies and an unstruck planchet. When the dies strike the coin, the foreign object will also be struck into it, leaving an incuse impression in the coin. The “foreign object” may be anything, such as cloth, wire, grease, dirt, metal scraps, or even another coin which had stuck to one of the dies, called a die cap.
                        Lol, I did a search and found that thread. Here was the attachment. This is a strike-through.
                        strike.jpg
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                        • VAB2013
                          Forum Ambassador
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 12351

                          #13
                          Originally posted by willbrooks
                          Lol, I did a search and found that thread. Here was the attachment. This is a strike-through.

                          [ATTACH=CONFIG]140513[/ATTACH]
                          See there Will... just shows you... I was paying attention!

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                          • Rowdyricster
                            Paid Member

                            • Feb 2019
                            • 823

                            #14
                            Originally posted by VAB2013
                            See there Will... just shows you... I was paying attention!
                            I'm paying attention, too. I'll remember that.

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