1955p MS with a secondary neck?

[VAB2013]

The clash under the chin from the C of CENT is usually incuse, which is kind of confusing now that you mention it.

You mean the N of CENT right? http://www.maddieclashes.com/one-cent-overlays/

[makecents]

The clash under the chin from the C of CENT is usually incuse, which is kind of confusing now that you mention it.



If he is up for it, I'll be glad to.

http://www.maddieclashes.com/389-2/

[Petespockets55]

http://www.maddieclashes.com/389-2/

Thanks Jon. I was busy correcting my Boo Boo when you and Viv caught that one.

I just couldn't spit the right words out fast enough in Edit mode.

[GrumpyEd]

Now I'm getting confused and I am just drinking coffee LOL @Ed. I thought that all die clash marks are raised, am I badly mistaken?

Viv,

Sort of confused LOL. The design elements from a clash will be incuse, the things that look raised are really the fields or boundaries of the fields.

I described it above, in a clash the dies hit and transfer to each other die. So in effect it's trying to strike the other die like a coin is struck. That means it tries to strike up (raise) the letters on the opposing die. Raised letters on a die make incuse letters on a coin.

Stuff you see as raised from a clash can be the boundary like where the obv field meets the bust, that section of field becomes raised on the rev die. Simply put, the clash image is reverse of normal, raised details are incuse and field areas are raised.

[jfines69]

Don't forget counter clashes http://www.maddieclashes.com/type-i-counterclash/ http://www.maddieclashes.com/type-ii-counter-clash/ However I do not think this item is a clash remnant??? It looks more like a die ding/gouge??? There does appear to be a clash remnant of the N but the edge of that is slightly east of the anomaly!!!

[Petespockets55]

Don't forget counter clashes http://www.maddieclashes.com/type-i-counterclash/ http://www.maddieclashes.com/type-ii-counter-clash/ However I do not think this item is a clash remnant??? It looks more like a die ding/gouge??? There does appear to be a clash remnant of the N but the edge of that is slightly east of the anomaly!!!

Thanks Jim. That's why I was hoping for an overlay to see if it was with in the outline of a normal coin.

[jfines69]

Thanks Jim. That's why I was hoping for an overlay to see if it was with in the outline of a normal coin.

I can download them and do an overlay if you wish???

Added - Try to get a clearer full obv pic... The current pic blurs to much when I zoom in and I can not see the neck area!!!

[Petespockets55]

Thanks Jim I'll take you up on that offer for overlays. I actually thought this was part of a clash at first because of the stain east of the bow tie going NNE. There are some perpendicular remnants of die polishing scratches across the the two raised areas onto the field. I don't have high hopes for this being anything other than die damage, but this one is above my pay grade to say for sure.

Here are some Full Obverse and closeups. I was able to get much clearer images. Hopefully they work for what you need.

[jfines69]

Thanks Clif... I noticed on your full rev pic in the original post that there appears to be a clash remnant between the NI of UNITED???