PCGS Crossover Grading

[hbarbee]

If PCGS reopens again, I plan on submitting these 4 NGC graded coins in order to get the collection exclusively PCGS for the slabbed items so they can be included in the Registry. I would hope for the best but I suspect I will not be happy with the results so I wanted to get your opinions. The photos I took pretty much duplicate what you see in hand. Please excuse the 2 Indians but my cent collection starts in 1900 rather than with the Lincolns.

The NGC grades are:
1900 PF65RB
1909 PF65RB CAC
1909 S Over Horizontal S MS63RB
1999 S Close AM PF69RD Ultra Cameo

The numerical grades may be OK, but I don't think the first 2 will make RB and I don't think the last one is ultra cameo.

Thanks for your inputs as I execute this dubious plan.

[WaterSport]

Well, PCGS IS back open as of Tomorrow. Check their web page. Now as far as your coins. Its been my observation that NGC is a bit more generous with grading than PCGS. But in My opinion, you have got that already figured out. Good luck with you submission.

Bob

[Petespockets55]

Gorgeous coins.
(I think you're right about that proof not being ultra cameo.)

[jfines69]

Those are really nice... I'm no grader but The 1st 3 shouldn't go more than 1 grade less if at all??? The 99S to me does not look ultra cameo??? Could be a cameo tho???

[hbarbee]

I appreciate all of your comments. A few decades ago I started to build a complete collection of cents from 1900 on in mint condition but in raw state. Sources at that time were only coin chops, coin shows and mail order. And I did not have the funds to buy the rarer pieces and the major varieties. Then a couple of years ago my interest in numismatics woke up and I started to complete the set, but with only certified coins. A few of the initial purchases were NGC but I quickly realized based on research and comparison that they seem to be more liberal than PCGS with their assignments and therefore somewhat overpriced. I started using the PCGS registry set "Lincoln Cents with Major Varieties, Circulation Strikes and Proof (1909-Present)" as my inventory list for a "Complete" collection. Then I thought it would be cool to enter the graded coins in as a registry set, but found the NGC coins were excluded. They is why I wanted to cross over these 4.

[kloccwork419]

I could see the 1900 hitting MS66. Not sure if youll get the RB but I think its better than the MS65s shown on PCGS. Maybe the color is better in hand.

[WaterSport]

Well first, PCGS is now closed again. But in the meantime your observations and collecting sounded like me. I then settled on PCGS. But now I am cracking out older graded coins because the grading has loosened over the years. I am not in to the old green holder BS, I am talking any coin graded 15 years ago. I got 2 in there now but its going to be a while to find out if I was fool enough to think ownership is worth one grade. I never do cross overs. The reason being I do not like dirty coins and just about every cent I crack benefits in at least appearance with a acetone bath first. But that is just me. Good Luck with your submission.

Bob

[hbarbee]

It has been a while, but the crossover grades are back from PCGS:

The NGC grades were:
1900 PF65RB
1909 PF65RB CAC
1909 S Over Horizontal S MS63RB
1999 S Close AM PF69RD Ultra Cameo

The new PCGS grades are:
1900 PF65BN
1909 PF65RB
1909 S Over Horizontal S MS64RB
1999 S Close AM PF68 Cameo

We were correct that the first one would not make RB and the last one was not ultra cameo. I guess it was kinda of a break even deal but my goal was to make 100% of my TPG coins to be PCGS and now they are.

[WaterSport]

I think you did just fine and your goal was met.

Bob

[Petespockets55]

I agree with WS Bob.
All crossed-over with one better upgrade (09 s/Hor s) that is probably more valuable than the downgraded one (the Pf68 Cameo).

(PCGS doesn't even have a value for a PF68 Cameo on this LINK . So does that mean you have the highest graded Cameo?)

[hbarbee]

They do have it valued. Refer to attached. I am OK with the outcome.

[Petespockets55]

Thanks because I was looking in the wrong column!
And you definitely made out better, value-wise, with the grades they received.