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The pops on the 83 and 95-P may be misleading.
Assuming you paid for attribution and got the FS number on the slab, is that right?
When you do it that way the pop can be misleading. On the 41 DDO and 95-D DDO the pop has more meaning because they can only be submitted that way so those pops are straightforward. On the 83 and 95-P those are coins they would attribute free without the FS number (just says Dbld Die no FS number), so most get submitted that way and those pops are not added together so if you want the real full PCGS pop you need to add those and it will dwarf the pop you see, there are a lot of high grade 83 DDRs in the pops.
Example of how to get confused and the auction houses always list and brag based on it.
For example they can list a 95-P DDO with FS number in 68RD as the top pop coin with only 46 known and brag it up as a "TOP POP". But in the normal version, there are 2799 graded in 68RD and it's pop 2 because there are also 15 graded in 69RD.
Something similar will happen with the 83 since it is also done both ways.
I mean its somewhat right but just because the label says Doubled Die, doesnt mean its the same one. Im sure there are many that are labeled with Doubled Die only and some not labeled at all. Unless you see the actual coin labeled with just Doubled Die without the FS#, theres no telling which one it is. Like a 1963 labeled with Doubled Die Reverse. VV has 27 of them listed, none have an FS#. Til you have good pictures or the coin in hand, theres no way to know which one it is. I get what your saying tho. Theres a lot of flaws in TPGs system of labeling
I mean its somewhat right but just because the label says Doubled Die, doesnt mean its the same one. Im sure there are many that are labeled with Doubled Die only and some not labeled at all. Unless you see the actual coin labeled with just Doubled Die without the FS#, theres no telling which one it is. Like a 1963 labeled with Doubled Die Reverse. VV has 27 of them listed, none have an FS#. Til you have good pictures or the coin in hand, theres no way to know which one it is. I get what your saying tho. Theres a lot of flaws in TPGs system of labeling
It's as accurate as the grading with the FS number. In either case they (PCGS) can goof but according to them the only 72 they do as generic is die-1, the only 83 DDR is DDR die-1, the only 36 is die-1, the only 95 is die-1.
They do goof sometimes with or without the numbers. Have seen a 36 die-2 in a generic holder and I've seen those and some 72 DDOs with wrong FS. One reason might be that FS does not give great markers like the other attributor listings. Sometimes they only show the main pick up point, don't sow mintmark location etc... I prefer PCGS grading but have more confidence in ANACs attributions.
With ANACs it's another story, generic DDO or DDR can be anything they think is a doubled die.
If you want all the details of coin numbers and what they'll put in the generic holder and what they do free, you need their "The PCGS Coin Numbering System Book". I'm not sure if they give them out but they did in the past. My copy is 19th edition and it's a few years old.
On the site, they tell you to call to order it on a disk.
They sent me a hard copy free in the past when I did some bulk submissions.
" If you would like to receive the PCGS Coin Numbering System on diskette, please contact our customer service department at 800-447-8848 for further details."
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