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  • Jacob
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 1737

    #1

    Large date and small dates.

    Going through these wheaties I started noticing that there is a Large Date and Small Date on the 50s era coins. Is there any mention of this and if so is one more desirable than the other. At first I was thinking die ware of some sort but noticed motto was smaller than normal. I never noticed this before and to be honest never heard of it before.
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  • willbrooks
    Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

    • Jan 2012
    • 9473

    #2
    No, there are no large/small dates in the 50s. Are you comparing different years? That might explain it, but you'll have to show some pictures of what you mean before I can give you an explanation.
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    • Jacob
      Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 1737

      #3
      I will bud tonight some time. Having a cook out and planting some veggies now.
      Life is not about greatness but on the impact of good onto others. It is a matter of how much one shines. Explains why I like shiny coins.

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      • Jacob
        Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 1737

        #4
        To be honest it was more a question over the matter of lg and sm dates. I personally don't feel like going through hassle of photoing them lol. Sorry not lazy it's just was more of a question than anything. On a good note my kids and I worked with Papa( my dad) building our garden. Bad note I burnt my right hand cooking on grill. Word of advice make sure you have no sanitizer stuff on hands while cooking lmao. All I can say is ouch. Here is garden. My little one was a big helper on garden.
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        • eaxtellcoin
          Paid Member

          • Jan 2008
          • 2086

          #5
          The only Lincoln Small and Large DATE hubs are 1960-P-D - 1970-S. Are you asking about Large Mintmark and Small Mintmark? These are in the 40's. If I'm missing any ALL chime in!

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          • Jacob
            Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 1737

            #6
            Originally posted by eaxtellcoin
            The only Lincoln Small and Large DATE hubs are 1960-P-D - 1970-S. Are you asking about Large Mintmark and Small Mintmark? These are in the 40's. If I'm missing any ALL chime in!
            1974 P and D and 1982. But area I was curious on was Motto on 1950s era wheats. Some are short and fat and some are not. This wasn't a die wear or heat issue either. But dates seemed normal. I'll dig some up when I organize my chaotic wheats. My coin room looks like a pig pen right now.
            Last edited by Jacob; 05-29-2020, 03:48 PM.
            Life is not about greatness but on the impact of good onto others. It is a matter of how much one shines. Explains why I like shiny coins.

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            • Jacob
              Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 1737

              #7
              Also yes I remember dates were affected in some way. The top of dates were fat and wide when bottom was thinner and narrow to a tip. Especially the 9 and 5. Maybe master die issue?
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              • GrumpyEd
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 7229

                #8
                The most likely reason is die polishing.

                Looking at a cross section (like in Rays awesome images) you would see details have a pyramid shape, as the die is polished away it's like taking away from the base of the pyramids, so what's remaining is smaller and further apart.

                It will mostly get rid of width but also reduces length because all sides of all details have the pyramid shape.

                Like all of these things, sometimes it shows in a way that's hard to imagine.
                Example of the same effect is when you see a cent with LIBERTY and it gets a lot smaller at the TY.

                Incomplete hubbings or dies being partly clogged can add or change the size as well or mixing that with polishing.

                Check out this thread:

                A couple of folks asked me about this study, and so I will post an abridged version of it here for the community. We had a question on the forum here from someone asking about some thin/tapered letters on 1996D cents that he was finding in mint sets. He was convinced the difference in the letters was a new design variety.

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                • willbrooks
                  Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                  • Jan 2012
                  • 9473

                  #9
                  Very timely bump, Ed. Thanks.
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