Two 1953-D paper rolls...which one is OBW and which is a Re-Wrap???

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  • ray_parkhurst
    Paid Member

    • Dec 2011
    • 1855

    #1

    Two 1953-D paper rolls...which one is OBW and which is a Re-Wrap???

    I just got back from a trip to SoCal to visit the Redondo Beach Electronics Swap, and made the rounds of coin shops while I was there. I'll start another thread on that topic but for now I want to show a couple of 1953-D paper rolls I picked up. The wrappers are very different, see the pic below. I'm 99% sure one is original, and 99% sure the other is a re-wrap. But which is which? It's intriguing because this is the first time I've had a truly original roll from this era from FRB Cleveland. Almost all FRB Clevelend "OBW" rolls are re-wraps, which is why I recommend not buying them in my "OBW Buying Guide" you can see here:
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    I've had a couple requests for my considerations when buying OBW rolls. I've written a bunch of them down in various posts, and eventually will pull them all together, but here are a few of them I pulled together today. Comments welcome. OBW Cent Roll buying guide 1) Don't listen to anything the dealer says about the rolls.

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    So here are the rolls...which is "real" and which is "fake"??
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  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12758

    #2
    I never paid too much attention to this particular year and I very seldom bought OBW wheats. By looking at the fonts alone, I would say the bottom roll is 'real'. The fact that the top roll was printed or stamped twice makes me believe it may be the fake one.
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • ray_parkhurst
      Paid Member

      • Dec 2011
      • 1855

      #3
      I am a big fan of 53-D rolls, especially OBW. The RPM's are quite dramatic! 53-D is also much harder to find than many other rolls, so are quite a challenge.

      The top roll looks to be in a genuine bank wrapper from the late 50's or early 60's. Many 1960-D rolls were searched during the 60's roll craze, and it seems the empty tubes were used to re-wrap other dates, perhaps from bags. I did not picture the ends, as it would be a giveaway, as the top roll has both ends showing good crimps, but with one having the telltale "fuzz" of a re-wrap. The bottom has paper on one end, and a tight and clean crimp on the other.
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      • kloccwork419
        Banned
        • Sep 2008
        • 6800

        #4
        I dont believe there are any OBW rolls but there are plenty of “OBW” rolls. 54-S is one of my favorite rolls to go after.

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        • ray_parkhurst
          Paid Member

          • Dec 2011
          • 1855

          #5
          Originally posted by kloccwork419
          I dont believe there are any OBW rolls but there are plenty of “OBW” rolls. 54-S is one of my favorite rolls to go after.
          Many "OBW" rolls are not true OBW, but there are indeed many true OBW out there. I've lucked into quite a few hoards of true OBW rolls in my collecting career. The ones I got in this "closed shop" hoard are for sure not re-wraps. I have even been lucky getting true OBW rolls from eBay, believe it or not, though it has been a few years. They are too expensive now to even try, especially given the low probability of them being true OBW.

          I like 54-S as well. I always find something interesting in an original 54-S or 55-S roll, tubed or OBW.
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          • kloccwork419
            Banned
            • Sep 2008
            • 6800

            #6
            I have one seller that I buy rolls from

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            • ray_parkhurst
              Paid Member

              • Dec 2011
              • 1855

              #7
              Originally posted by kloccwork419
              I have one seller that I buy rolls from
              There are a few folks who say that about me.
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              • ray_parkhurst
                Paid Member

                • Dec 2011
                • 1855

                #8
                I decided to open what I believed to be the "fake" 53-D roll, and found that I was correct. It was beautifully crimped on the end, but had several telltale signs of being a re-wrap.

                First, the re-wrapped end shows fuzziness in the paper crimp. This is a strong indicator of a re-wrap.



                Second, the pic below shows a coin in the middle of the roll whose toning does not match the other coins. This coin was probably an end coin, since the obverse matches the other coins. I found 4 such coins in this roll, which means it was put-together from coins from at least 2 true OBW rolls whose end coins were toned. The color here is subtle, mostly because of the flash, but you hopefully can see the different toning.



                A third sign is the roll had 51 coins (!). That would never happen in a true OBW.

                There were a couple more subtle signs that I won't publish here, but can relate to interested folks who PM me for the details.

                Overall, the quality of the coins was so-so. They were all BU, and all 1953-D (all 51 of them), but were not the super bright and beautiful coins you often see in un-molested rolls from this date.

                Luckily, the people searching the roll were not variety searchers, as I found 10 pieces of RPM #14 Stage C in this roll! Not too bad, and if anyone needs this RPM for their collection, let me know.
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