Buyer Beware | 1913-s toned??????

[Guest]

I hope some people are going to realize that PCGS uses numbers in there bar codes as to why a coin is deemed to be genuine and not gradeable.

Code 92 = Cleaning, Harsh cleaning or polishing.

What caught my eye on this listing was the asking price for this 1913-S or Make Offer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Penny-PCGS-Genuine-Toned-/190530443073?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI %26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clki d%3D3246438028623269061#ht_2108wt_952

Even at MS-63 it only books at one third of the asking price.
(Dish washing soap and water will change the color on some of the older coins to make them look toned.)

[jfines69]

Oh yea... Looks like a liquid dish soap tone... The only way to remove the tone is with copper cream or polish... But then the coins value is highly decreased... To bad cause it is a nice looking coin... Thanks for the heads up on the code number... I didn't know they coded them like that!!!

[Brad]

I avoid genuine holders. I don't even look at the coins.

[1sgret]

The high asking price caught my eye.

[jfines69]

I guess the seller figures since it's slabbed it's worth that much... Even harshly cleaned!!!

[amosamos16]

I have and I hear it all the time about pcgs and Ngc assigning cleaned or questable color to toned coins. Sometimes I have to wonder where there thinking is. I had recently bought a 1914 s ms 63 brown graded by anacs . I sent it to Ngc for crossover and it came back questionable color. So whos right ? IMHO it's all original and toned naturally. So I know it's just there opinion. But it really upsets me when your out 70 bucks. Imho If I were a big time dealer it would have got a grade and crossover.