Why doesn't eBay pull this garbage?

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  • jcuve
    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
    • Apr 2008
    • 15458

    #1

    Buyer Beware | Why doesn't eBay pull this garbage?

    80% of the time if I report a "vice job" listed as a double struck coin or a Clash eBay does nothing and some fool buys it - albeit for typically a few bucks.

    Here is a really obvious example of the garbage I am talking about:




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  • 1gtsfan
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 518

    #2
    do you usually try to tell the seller first?

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    • jcuve
      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
      • Apr 2008
      • 15458

      #3
      Originally posted by 1gtsfan
      do you usually try to tell the seller first?
      Yes, often, but I have about a 5% success rate. I typically get a response like, "okay," or "thanks for the info," yet they do not revise their listing or pull the auction. Once in a while the seller argues full force with me and they always invoke the "...in your opinion" clause no matter what has been said.

      My gripe here is that there are vice job concoctions being posted every few days and they are rather easy to spot and I would think eBay could at least deal with obvious nonsense...



      Jason Cuvelier


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      • ivan0000013

        #4
        why would they bother when,albeit small,they still get a listing fee,a final value fee,and inevitably a fee to collect monies from paypal.

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        • 1gtsfan
          Member
          • Jul 2008
          • 518

          #5
          Originally posted by jcuve
          Yes, often, but I have about a 5% success rate. I typically get a response like, "okay," or "thanks for the info," yet they do not revise their listing or pull the auction. Once in a while the seller argues full force with me and they always invoke the "...in your opinion" clause no matter what has been said.

          My gripe here is that there are vice job concoctions being posted every few days and they are rather easy to spot and I would think eBay could at least deal with obvious nonsense...
          please tell us how to spot these.

          if no one buys them they will stop listing them.

          ivan is right ebay has no incentive to end these listings.

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          • bhp3rd

            #6
            At first eBay will claim they care but really they do not.
            This has been a major issue for many of us for over 12 years.
            You can email the seller, you can email ebay or you can go for a walk.
            Only the last option is worth a "hill of beans" in the long run.
            eBay will not change because they are a sellers market.
            I've spent hours and hours emailing sellers and posting topics regarding these concerns and it's still going on, now even more than ever.
            eBay is one site die variety collectors should never buy from unless they really know and trust the seller.
            IMO eBay has no soul, they are corrupt and useless for us!!!

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            • jcuve
              Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
              • Apr 2008
              • 15458

              #7
              Originally posted by 1gtsfan
              please tell us how to spot these.

              if no one buys them they will stop listing them.

              ivan is right ebay has no incentive to end these listings.
              There are two ways of going about this, a check list of what should be present on a genuine Mint error or variety and a list of what is present on the coin that would be inconsistent with a Mint error. In the case of the coin I highlighted, what's wrong with the coin is most obvious and makes for an easy conclusion.

              The coin's supposed second strike is incuse and reversed eliminating a standard second strike (which would not be incuse), leaving an off-center brockage strike or an initial strike from a capped die (called a mirror brockage) as the only likely possibilities. The coin is misshapen and distorted as if pressed in a vice as opposed to being struck by a die. And there are incuse marks on fully formed rims.

              I am still some what new to error coins and I may be missing a few obvious points but I am confidant it is not a Mint error.

              If collectors made a point of educating themselves before buying errors or varieties that would stop the problem as would eBay having a more competent staff that could deal with various collectibles. Of course, as pointed out, there is not incentive to do this...
              Last edited by jcuve; 03-02-2010, 05:36 PM.



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