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  • Historyhound
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    • Aug 2009
    • 432

    #1

    Error Plating | Partial plating or PMD?

    Just found this while CRH'ing. Having a hard time telling if it was like this when struck or if there is something else going on here. The outer edge of the coin is unplated except for the area by the date. But, the obv and rev rim, appears to be plated all the way around. Under magnification, it does not exhibit any trace of acid damage. I'm perplexed. Any theories?
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  • jallengomez
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    • Jan 2010
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    #2
    Originally posted by Historyhound
    Just found this while CRH'ing. Having a hard time telling if it was like this when struck or if there is something else going on here. The outer edge of the coin is unplated except for the area by the date. But, the obv and rev rim, appears to be plated all the way around. Under magnification, it does not exhibit any trace of acid damage. I'm perplexed. Any theories?
    I'm not seeing it, but what you are describing sounds like plate split doubling. Jason has an excellent article about it as well as photos here:

    “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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    • Historyhound
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      • Aug 2009
      • 432

      #3
      Originally posted by jallengomez
      I'm not seeing it, but what you are describing sounds like plate split doubling. Jason has an excellent article about it as well as photos here:

      http://www.errorvariety.com/OFD/PSD.html
      Sorry, but this isn't even close. Nothing appears to be split, nor is there any doubling.

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      • jallengomez
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        • Jan 2010
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        #4
        Originally posted by Historyhound
        Sorry, but this isn't even close. Nothing appears to be split, nor is there any doubling.
        I may be missing something that is very obvious, but I'm not seeing any missing plating. Where on the coin are you seeing it?
        “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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        • Historyhound
          Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 432

          #5
          Originally posted by jallengomez
          I may be missing something that is very obvious, but I'm not seeing any missing plating. Where on the coin are you seeing it?

          This should simplify it. Why is the coin mostly silver in color and not copper?

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          • jallengomez
            Member
            • Jan 2010
            • 4447

            #6
            Originally posted by Historyhound
            This should simplify it. Why is the coin mostly silver in color and not copper?
            Tell me what kind of lighting you used for the pictures and I'll try to white balance it in photoshop, but I'm seeing a normal Cent. There are simple chemistry experiments though to turn a Cent silver(and gold). Here's how it's done:

            Last edited by jallengomez; 05-24-2011, 08:24 PM.
            “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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            • jallengomez
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              • Jan 2010
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              #7
              Okay...the lighting is very warm, but I think I see the big picture now...post mint would be my guess.
              “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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              • copperlover

                #8
                Could be chemical affecting parts of the coin or the metal composition was not consistent.

                lucien

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                • jallengomez
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #9
                  Althought the copper plating is thin, if it were a plating issue you would see a definite deliniation where the remaining copper bordered the underlying zinc. Looks like a smooth transition from the photos, so as copperlover pointed out it's probably a chemical alteration.
                  “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                  • jcuve
                    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 15458

                    #10
                    I would agree it seems more like the existing plating was altered by way of chemical or heat, but I really cannot say for sure without maybe a closeup photo of a transition area. As Jody pointed out, the plating has a definable thickness and there will be a particular transition between the two surfaces. If there is such a transition, then we'll need the coin's weight.



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                    • jfines69
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                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #11
                      I recently came across a coin covered in black except for a few spots on the edge... The black substance came off while cleaning the coin!!!
                      Jim
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