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  • Bri
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 509

    #1

    Error Struck Through | Recent strong struck through grease finds

    Found a few pretty strong struck through grease specimens on the last brick and a nickel in pocket change I thought were neat.

    Thought I would add the 1994 that I found in my pocket change a couple years ago for S&G purposes as long as I was on the "Struck Through" coins.


    Thanks for looking

    Bri
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  • Maineman750
    Administrator

    • Apr 2011
    • 12069

    #2
    Those are some nice examples...hope Cents1st doesn't see this thread
    https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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    • mustbebob
      Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
      • Jul 2008
      • 12758

      #3


      Great struck throughs. I like them all
      Bob Piazza
      Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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      • Bri
        Member
        • May 2010
        • 509

        #4
        Originally posted by Maineman750
        Those are some nice examples...hope Cents1st doesn't see this thread
        Why is that?
        Bri

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        • Maineman750
          Administrator

          • Apr 2011
          • 12069

          #5
          Originally posted by uncommoncents42
          Why is that?

          Guess you missed it..but he/she is on a mission to prove there is no such thing as struck though grease
          https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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          • Bri
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 509

            #6
            Originally posted by Maineman750
            Guess you missed it..but he/she is on a mission to prove there is no such thing as struck though grease
            In his/her defense, there are different errors that are similar to struck through grease such as a die adjustment strike where before the dies are set in place, the die setter does a series of tests to see if the striking pressure is great enough to bring up the coin metal in the design on both sides of the coin. These test pieces are supposed to be tossed into a scrap bin but sometimes reaches circulation. They appear to have the same degree of weakness on both the obverse AND reverse sides.

            There is indeed a struck through grease error though in which the grease is composed of dirt, grease and metal fragments. I wish him/her luck in rewriting the error/variety book though.
            Bri

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            • mustbebob
              Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
              • Jul 2008
              • 12758

              #7
              Please...let's not go through this again. If you want to read about the grease issue, visit this thread


              Bob Piazza
              Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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              • mikediamond
                Paid Member, Error Expert

                • Jan 2008
                • 1104

                #8
                Originally posted by uncommoncents42
                In his/her defense, there are different errors that are similar to struck through grease such as a die adjustment strike where before the dies are set in place, the die setter does a series of tests to see if the striking pressure is great enough to bring up the coin metal in the design on both sides of the coin. These test pieces are supposed to be tossed into a scrap bin but sometimes reaches circulation. They appear to have the same degree of weakness on both the obverse AND reverse sides.

                There is indeed a struck through grease error though in which the grease is composed of dirt, grease and metal fragments. I wish him/her luck in rewriting the error/variety book though.
                The "die adjustment strike" is a myth. Unless you were there when the coin is struck, it is impossible to establish ultimate cause. There are many kinds of spontaneous press malfunctions that can produce a profoundly weak strike. The vast majority of weak strike in the marketplace are assuredly the result of press malfunction, not press setup.

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                • Bri
                  Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 509

                  #9
                  Originally posted by mikediamond
                  The "die adjustment strike" is a myth. Unless you were there when the coin is struck, it is impossible to establish ultimate cause. There are many kinds of spontaneous press malfunctions that can produce a profoundly weak strike. The vast majority of weak strike in the marketplace are assuredly the result of press malfunction, not press setup.
                  Ok. Thanks for the correction.
                  Bri

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                  • Bri
                    Member
                    • May 2010
                    • 509

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mustbebob
                    Please...let's not go through this again. If you want to read about the grease issue, visit this thread


                    http://www.lincolncentresource.net/f...ad.php?t=16508

                    Just read it. That should win a LCR award for "Most Popular Controversy".
                    Bri

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                    • papascoins
                      Member
                      • Mar 2011
                      • 1202

                      #11
                      Filled dies??

                      I am pretty new at this, but I thought those pics would be coins struck with a 'filled' die. (Filled with metal that hasnt been cleaned out of the die.) Can you explain why this is wrong?
                      Thanks.
                      Mark

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                      • Maineman750
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                        • Apr 2011
                        • 12069

                        #12
                        Would be best to start a new thread..but what "metal" would you be refering to ? Loose pieces just laying around would most likely be refered to as struck through and leave a pattern or be "retained struck through" examples.
                        https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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                        • papascoins
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1202

                          #13
                          Filled Die

                          I'm sorry. I didn't know. I just thought that a 'filled die' meant that some of the images and such were filled with some of the planchet metal.
                          Thanks for the explanation.
                          Mark

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                          • DoubleYou
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                            • Sep 2010
                            • 3629

                            #14
                            Actually these errors are sometimes referred to as filled dies in shorthand to mean that the grease was filling the incuse elements of the die when the coin was struck, so a filled die is an accurate description, although struck through grease is what we typically call it. It generally isn't filled with metal, however. So we might define these errors as coins that were struck through dies that had some grease filling the recesses of the design.
                            Wendell Carper
                            It's a bird! It's a plane! Aw nuts... It's merely two die scratches!

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                            • atarian
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                              • Jun 2010
                              • 1572

                              #15
                              Nice examples. I got a bunch of rev greasers this past week maybe I'll post them tonight when I get home
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