1980D weighs 2.7 grams

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  • cimperialis
    Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1968

    #1

    Error Planchet | 1980D weighs 2.7 grams

    Howdy,

    I was going through a roll and when I dropped this coin in the reject pile, I heard an unusually high-pitched ping. I grabbed the coin and immediately it felt light weight for a copper planchet. I weighed it and sure enough it was 2.7 grams. I then weighed another 1980D just to be sure, and the normal coin was 3.1 grams. I've never found a light coin like this. Was it minted on a wrong planchet? A defective planchet? What kind of premium is associated with these? If you've got a must-read link, that would be appreciated. Thanks!

    Sean
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    Search started in Sep 2011. 913,650 cents searched as of 9/24/13.
  • RWBILLER
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 6870

    #2
    Wow - I don't know about that one - just maybe it was a planchet that was rolled thin or punched from a rolled thin piece of metal. I have seen that before. I can't wait what others have to say!
    Rog
    Roger
    ""Time and Tide wait for no man"

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    • cimperialis
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1968

      #3
      After searching through other threads, it looks like this is a planchet that was rolled thin. Mike Diamond says they are fairly common, but I'm not sure how common that is.

      I still ask, is there any reading out there on these? And what sort of premium is associated?
      -Sean
      Search started in Sep 2011. 913,650 cents searched as of 9/24/13.

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      • RWBILLER
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 6870

        #4
        Do a search on goggle for "Lincoln cent rolled thi planchet"
        Rog
        Roger
        ""Time and Tide wait for no man"

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        • SuddenAdoration
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 918

          #5
          there are some coins on ebay that I found with the key words rolled thin planchet....

          and completed listings
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          • liveandievarieties
            TPG & Market Expert
            • Feb 2011
            • 6049

            #6
            That's pretty cool Sean, I know exactly what you mean when you say you heard the *tink*!

            I have a dozen or so that I've saved, not common by any means, a dozen out of an immense amount of coins. Liking statistics as you do, I'd say they're one in many, many thousands.

            Usually, rolled thin planchets will have considerable weakness or be unevenly thin on one side, but I do have several that show no weakness yet are considerably underweight (I believe up to 10% variance is considered "normal").

            I also don't know how to establish them as anything other than what they obviously are- underweight. Hmmm- a few weeks back didn't someone say they had access to spectral analysis tools- wasn't it Wendell? Don't recall, but I think this would be the next step to determining it's composition. Might be worth a try, or maybe a waste of time.

            I may have given you more questions than answers, but know that your coin isn't common.
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            • pman860507
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 1577

              #7
              Thats a REALLY cool find Sean. Another thing i knew nothing about till right now!
              Casey Parman

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              • mustbebob
                Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                • Jul 2008
                • 12758

                #8
                Is there any evidence of a taper of the coin? Thin planchets aren't really common, nor are they rare. I have a couple wheaties with the weight in the 2.4 gram range, but they do show a taper, which does account for some of the weight disparity..
                Bob Piazza
                Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                • cimperialis
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1968

                  #9
                  I don't think there is any tapering of the rim (i.e. thinner on one side). It appears the weight is evenly distributed across the planchet.

                  Later I will post pictures of different sides of the rim, with a side-by-side comparison to a normal cent.
                  -Sean
                  Search started in Sep 2011. 913,650 cents searched as of 9/24/13.

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                  • wapa
                    Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 2409

                    #10
                    Neat find. Now I gotta start dropping each coin to listen for the tink.

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                    • jcuve
                      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 15458

                      #11
                      I'm not sure where the line is drawn between interesting and collectible. I believe anything below 2g starts to impact the strike and would begin to be collectible. I would of course keep it nonetheless.



                      Jason Cuvelier


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                      • mikediamond
                        Paid Member, Error Expert

                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1104

                        #12
                        As others have said, this cent was struck on a planchet punched out of rolled-thin stock. Such errors can be as light as 1.4 grams.

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                        • cimperialis
                          Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1968

                          #13
                          Hi Mike, can you provide any info on the value of such a coin? I've searched ebay and other places and haven't found any good comparisons. The closest thing I came across was a thin wheat that weighed 2.7 grams, and it was being sold for about $50.
                          -Sean
                          Search started in Sep 2011. 913,650 cents searched as of 9/24/13.

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                          • mikediamond
                            Paid Member, Error Expert

                            • Jan 2008
                            • 1104

                            #14
                            Because the coin is only 0.4 grams underweight, its value is probably no more than $5. Even severely underweight examples seldom sell for more than $25. For whatever reason, this error type is not in high demand.

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                            • liveandievarieties
                              TPG & Market Expert
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 6049

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mikediamond
                              For whatever reason, this error type is not in high demand.
                              Interesting, I've found the same thing when attempting to sell considerably underweight planchets (not tapered planchets). Curious that something so scarce isn't highly coveted.
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