1994-P Rotaded Reverse 180+ or 160 ?

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  • RWBILLER
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 6870

    #1

    Error Rotated Die | 1994-P Rotaded Reverse 180+ or 160 ?

    Hi:
    Just found in a bank roll. I always check the reverse of 1994's and something strange happened. The reverse is either 180+ degrees roted or 160 degrees rotated. Wow Wow Wow!!!
    Believe me it is rotated!!!
    Are these worth anything?
    Thanks
    Roger
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    Roger
    ""Time and Tide wait for no man"
  • RWBILLER
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 6870

    #2
    Some more info on the 1994 Roted die

    Hi:
    I found this site on rotated coins:
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    The one i found is 165 degrees roted and in a known date for 1 cent rotations - rated very rare with about 10 known.
    thanks
    Roger
    Roger
    ""Time and Tide wait for no man"

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    • 1gtsfan
      Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 518

      #3
      thats great rotated dies tough to i don't have any lincoln rotated dies yet.

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      • tmawhit
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 194

        #4
        I think that one is 165 Degrees. I found one in BU condition on a buisness trip to Milwaukee last year. It is one of my favorite finds.

        Tom

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        • AgCollector

          #5
          Originally posted by RWBILLER
          Hi:
          Just found in a bank roll. I always check the reverse of 1994's and something strange happened. The reverse is either 180+ degrees roted or 160 degrees rotated. Wow Wow Wow!!!
          Believe me it is rotated!!!
          Are these worth anything?
          Thanks
          Roger
          Those are always neat to find! I agree that it's 165 rotated, probably counterclockwise based on your photos. Value is between $20-$60 based on recent eBay auctions.

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          • 1gtsfan
            Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 518

            #6
            if you take pics of the coin in a cardboard flip with 3 staples then it would be easier to tell how much it is rotated.

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            • kloccwork419
              Banned
              • Sep 2008
              • 6800

              #7
              What do these really go for?. I never really pay any attention to rotation!!..lol..Im so caught up in other errors and varieties that it never crosses my mind!!

              Forgive me while i knee myself in the head!!!

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              • Brad
                Founder: Lincoln Cent Resource

                • Nov 2007
                • 4949

                #8
                I think that these 1994 rotated dies are more common than people think. LCR members have found at least 4 in the last year. David Carten (Car10) said that he has found 6 of them. They have all been 165 degrees. I bought a MS 62 RB example for $40.
                Brad
                Lincoln Cent Resource
                My PCGS Registry

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                • laytonre

                  #9
                  joe how do you tell the degree of rotation and can you really tell what die...i use 0 at top dead center, 90 at right, 180 at bottom dead center, and 270 to left...when the coin is flipped the center line should line up with between e&s (states) bottom along edge of c...if you flip it with no rotation and look at this line that gives you the degree...is this proper way....richard

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                  • dvn

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Brad
                    I think that these 1994 rotated dies are more common than people think. LCR members have found at least 4 in the last year. David Carten (Car10) said that he has found 6 of them. They have all been 165 degrees. I bought a MS 62 RB example for $40.
                    Common is a subjective term Brad. What you might think is common for you or a few who do find them is not common to the many who have never found one.

                    One major factor is it depends on the person's geographical area. Case in point: I know a member of this board who is finding the 1992-D Close AM (a few of them). But, to date I have never found one. With your type of reasoning, then one might think it may be common but we all know that variety is NOT common but downright rare. The point is they are in his geographical area -- they are not in mine. That's the way the cookie crumbles. But, all things tend to even out. Such as a different variety is in my area and not in yours. The thrill of the hunt!

                    So, be careful when you use a term such as "common" with such a wide brush stroke.

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                    • fugnchill

                      #11
                      Billy,

                      Aren't you in Washington down south of Olympia? I'm going by memory so I may be off. I'm in Black Diamond between Enumclaw and Maple Valley and I don't really find anything but minor RPM's for the most part. Which variety are you talking about in our area?

                      Thanks,
                      Lestrrr

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                      • mousey70

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RWBILLER
                        Hi:
                        Just found in a bank roll. I always check the reverse of 1994's and something strange happened. The reverse is either 180+ degrees roted or 160 degrees rotated. Wow Wow Wow!!!
                        Believe me it is rotated!!!
                        Are these worth anything?
                        Thanks
                        Roger
                        Hi RW, I think I have your cents brother. I thought I had a really realy valuable cent but as said maybe $60+ is the value.
                        The rotation is 165* CCW. as I was informed rotation gets no greater than 180*. But I like to put in CCW because it tells members the rotation has passed 180* and the memorial is almost upside down.(layman's terms)
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                        • Brad
                          Founder: Lincoln Cent Resource

                          • Nov 2007
                          • 4949

                          #13
                          Billy, I was just referring to the above post that reference the rotated die census that says there are around 10 known. I just meant that it is not nearly that rare. I would not suggest that this is a common variety.
                          Brad
                          Lincoln Cent Resource
                          My PCGS Registry

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                          • AgCollector

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fugnchill
                            Billy,

                            Aren't you in Washington down south of Olympia? I'm going by memory so I may be off. I'm in Black Diamond between Enumclaw and Maple Valley and I don't really find anything but minor RPM's for the most part. Which variety are you talking about in our area?

                            Thanks,
                            Lestrrr
                            You're thinking of Bill O'Rourke aka foundinrolls. Billy (dvn) is in (North?) Carolina.

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                            • dvn

                              #15
                              I'm in Ladson, South Carolina -- a suburb of Charleston.

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