Struck through obverse and reverse capped dies?

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  • amnight
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 295

    #1

    Error Struck Through | Struck through obverse and reverse capped dies?

    Hi, I found this coin and wanted to know if it was struck by capped dies or it is struck through grease? Also, is it rare to find them struck by capped dies on both sides? Here are pics and thanks!
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    -Steve
  • jcuve
    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
    • Apr 2008
    • 15458

    #2
    This coin was damaged.



    Jason Cuvelier


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    • flyhi3
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 3702

      #3
      Sorry, but I agree with Jason. Exposure to heat, or being put through the dryer are two common causes of this sort of appearance. Just PMD, or post mint damage, sorry.
      Alexander Helzel
      Ecrater eBay Facebook

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      • amnight
        Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 295

        #4
        Thanks for the answers. I have a capped die and it looked like this one that's why I thought it was one.
        -Steve

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        • flyhi3
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 3702

          #5
          Originally posted by amnight
          Thanks for the answers. I have a capped die and it looked like this one that's why I thought it was one.
          Can we see pictures of it? Also, I do not believe these normally occur on both sides of a coin.
          Alexander Helzel
          Ecrater eBay Facebook

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          • amnight
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 295

            #6
            Sure. Here are pics! Also would the one posted earlier weigh less than a normal penny if it was PMD?
            Attached Files
            -Steve

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            • simonm
              Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 6398

              #7
              That one certainly is a struck through die cap. There is a difference between the one you just posted and the one posted way above, though. The one posted way above has fattened features, which is evidence of repetitive damage...most likely a washer. On the struck-through die cap, the design isn't fatter, it is just faded and distorted.
              My old coin album.

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              • flyhi3
                Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 3702

                #8
                Originally posted by amnight
                would the one posted earlier weigh less than a normal penny if it was PMD?
                It is certainly possible, depending on what was done to it.
                Alexander Helzel
                Ecrater eBay Facebook

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                • amnight
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 295

                  #9
                  It weighs between 3.07 and 3.1 grams on my scale. Would the penny be thinner if it had gone through a dryer or be hit a bunch of times?
                  -Steve

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                  • jcuve
                    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 15458

                    #10
                    First coin, damaged. Second coin struck by a late stage die cap. They is a similarity between them, but experience helps me see the differences. Hold on to both, watch was is posted on the forum over the next year and eventually you'll see it too.



                    Jason Cuvelier


                    MadDieClashes.com - ErrorVariety.com
                    TrailDies.com - Error-ref.com - Port.Cuvelier.org
                    CONECA

                    (images © Jason Cuvelier 2008-18)___________________

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                    • amnight
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 295

                      #11
                      Okay. Thanks jcuve.
                      -Steve

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                      • GrumpyEd
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7229

                        #12
                        It weighs between 3.07 and 3.1 grams on my scale. Would the penny be thinner if it had gone through a dryer or be hit a bunch of times?
                        You might see the weight drop but not much. Being hit mostly moves metal, it doesn't take it off. Even if a coin looks thinner it's mostly from the rims being flattened. First coin looks damaged, second coin struck through capped die.

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                        • mikediamond
                          Paid Member, Error Expert

                          • Jan 2008
                          • 1104

                          #13
                          I agree with the damage assessment for the coin that tops this thread. I have seen one case of a cent struck through a die cap on both faces. But it's a broadstrike, as might be expected.

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                          • amnight
                            Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 295

                            #14
                            One last quick question about the coin at the beginning of this post. Could this possibly be a capped die coin in an early stage or would a obverse and reverse die cap always produce a broadstruck coin?
                            -Steve

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                            • Maineman750
                              Administrator

                              • Apr 2011
                              • 12079

                              #15
                              Coin at the beginning is damaged...second question was answered by Mike Diamond.
                              https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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