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Gauge before strike. Have come across them in plenty of 2014. Did a box and a half of them and many had these gauges. That one full brick was full of them.
Gauge before strike. Have come across them in plenty of 2014. Did a box and a half of them and many had these gauges. That one full brick was full of them.
Keep in mind these devices are incuse. It is coin contact from another coin. Bag mark.
Richard S. Cooper Some have asked about my images I use, and I'm glad to say I've completed a DVD of these. Ask if you are interested. Newer members like these.
ohhh coop... WOW.. good catch....you just blew my mind with that catch...
the letters on the coin are incuse.. they are sunk into the coin... on the die they are raised above the field...
if the die was hit causing a gouge the letters would be dented first... the gouge would leave a raised area on the field...AND would have smushed that area of the raised letters making the letters on the coin looked filled in....
INHO damage to the coin,bag mark, stay hit, what ever you want to call it...
no way a die gouge
ohhh coop... WOW.. good catch....you just blew my mind with that catch...
the letters on the coin are incuse.. they are sunk into the coin... on the die they are raised above the field...
if the die was hit causing a gouge the letters would be dented first... the gouge would leave a raised area on the field...AND would have smushed that area of the raised letters making the letters on the coin looked filled in....
INHO damage to the coin,bag mark, stay hit, what ever you want to call it...
no way a die gouge
No way a hit or PSD. Maybe a gouge on the hub. There is no interruption of the border on the devices (letters) if it were psd there would be.
Busyeye is right, there's a lot of this going on with the 2014P's. Here's a few more I just found for ya'll to look at while this gets figured out.
So I have a dumb question to add. If magnification makes incuse look raised, then why doesn't it affect gouges the same way. For instance pic EPU 5 shows some distinct gouges.
Jason, in the pic EPU 5 the hits scattered around the exterior of EPU look like hits and they look incuse on the photo. But some of the other anomalies appear raised, just the same as EPU appears raised (but it's really incuse)
Sorry for the confusion, but this is confusing. Some of the photos you can tell the anom is a dent (incuse) and others look obviously raised (just the same as EPU looks raised)
Last edited by VAB2013; 04-08-2014, 07:21 PM.
Reason: confusion
No way a hit or PSD. Maybe a gouge on the hub. There is no interruption of the border on the devices (letters) if it were psd there would be.
roller.. I am not disagreeing with you.. I just do not understand and my way of thinking is leading me to a different conclusion.... OK maybe I do disagree with you..LOL
here is my thoughts
dent/gouge on the die would have hit the letters first denting them leaving a raised area in the letters on the coin through all 3 letters.. so I think we can all agree no die dent/gouge..
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now hub dent/gouge....hubs make more than 1 die..EX: the master hub doubling from 1972.. around 30% to 50% of the 1972 cents I have heard are master hub doubling.. because it effects many dies...
if it is hub dent/gouge there would be many dies with this "thing" at the exact same place/depth/ and length...
bussyeye said he has seen plenty of them on 2014's.. the answer would be from him... are they EXACTLY the same place depth, and length as this one?..do they effect more than 1 die?
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PSD .... the letters are sunk into the coin.. the pressure of a hit on the field that does not hit hard enough to go down into the letters may or may not alter the edge of the letters...if you say they would be effected....
and it was a hub dent/gouge.. the letters would also be damaged on the hub..transfer to the die... and then onto the coins....
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upon blowing the images up the R has some "damage" to it but not the U or the I
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If no one else can figure this out..I want to try...
VAB2013 and BUSYEYE.. I would like to see a copy of your coins.....I want to understand this "thing"
If you would let me...PM me so I can give you an address.. or I can send you an E-MAIL with a copy of a UPS tag that you can put on a box and send it to me... I would return it UPS style back to you...
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