Error Die Clash/Break | Very Large & Smaller Retained Break?

[jay4202472000]

I noticed this as soon as I flipped the coin. I expected it to be a plating issue...and it still could be I guess. However, with the slight vertical displacement, I think these 2 could be retained interior die breaks. The larger area runs from the top most curl of the hair, down through the forehead into the field. It traverses southward, and slightly mimics the facial features. Then, it turns west and goes up through the bottom of the chin. It then makes a weird little loop back to the south. It then turns north again and traverses the cheek, up through the temple area, to the point of beginning. There is also another smaller, yet similar, anomaly around the bow tie. Take a look and give me your opinions please. Thanks friends!

[jmangham]

Whatever it is it's cool looking!

[stoneman227]

I'm thinking a plating issue. In the third pic down the anomaly shows as a shadow line in a equally lighted surface, a die crack would have given you a highlight and a shadow. The fifth pic down does show some highlights and shadows but those I think are caused by the angle of the coin from the camera sensor

[stoneman227]

Forgot to add it is cool !

[jfines69]

Could it be a strike thru grease... The outline of the anomolies looks similar to the outline of Abes face, hair, chin, neck and bow tie areas... Recently there were some postings with dates showing similar characteristics (Large offset and distorted devices) and I believe the concensus was strike thru grease!!!

[jay4202472000]

I'm pretty sure it isn't a grease strike. Everything inside the two boundaries is slightly raised from the surface of the coin. There isn't an actual split "crack" in the plating, but I guess the plating may not be stuck to the underlying zinc, weakening the plating. But, without a doubt, the inside of the boundaries is slightly elevated. Thanks so far!

[mustbebob]

Do you think it might be something like glue? Have you tried an acetone bath yet or tried to see if the edges will come up?

[jay4202472000]

I haven't poked at it, but any coin I may keep gets acetone, just to dilute any skin oils from fingers. I've also been fooled, on other forums, by coins with adhesives. I know acetone doesn't hurt, so any possible keeper gets acetone before imaging or storing. Should I poke at it?

[jfines69]

If you are sure it is not a strike thru or something stuck to it then, I would think, it would be a candidate for one of the pros to do an in hand look!!!

[jay4202472000]

If you are sure it is not a strike thru or something stuck to it then, I would think, it would be a candidate for one of the pros to do an in hand look!!!

That's funny Mr. Jim. I came back to say, "I'll gladly send it to anyone that would like to take a look." Anyone, just let me know.

[mustbebob]

I would be happy to have a look at it for you, but I am about to leave for the holidays next week and won't return util the first week in January. If you do not get resolution by then, I will be happy to have a look for you.

[jay4202472000]

Thank you much, Bob.

[Petespockets55]

Looks like it could be extra zinc on the interior core from when the planchette was made and before plating.
Image number 6 appears to show the raised area fairly well which is why I was thinking a dollop of Extra metal as the zinc sheets were rolled to the correct thickness.

[jfines69]

Did this ever get decided???

[jay4202472000]

Did this ever get decided???

No sir. I got busy, forgot about the coin, and never got back to Bob. I had forgotten about it entirely until I saw erex01's coin this morning. I know I stil have it, where is the question.