Error Other | Likely a vice squeeze job except for...

[profiler]

This is likely a vice squeeze job based on reverse scuff marks, as well as raised cross-shaped mark on obverse (could easily be the Philipps head set screw in a vice).

The reasons I've had a second look are: (a) the metal flow on the left of the cross-shape is fairly smooth; (b) there's MD on the north side of the cross shape; (c) there's a second raised inner rim on the reverse that matches the radius of the outer rim. And it joins the U of USA as if it were struck like that.

Your thoughts, please? Thanks in advance.

(P.S. Sorry if this is a duplicate post. Images didn't load properly last time...)

[jfines69]

I think you are on the money... Who ever did this forgot about the set screw That is cool looking tho!!!

[willbrooks]

Everything you see here is damage. My advise is this: when you see this extreme amount of damage on a coin, trying to determine if a small part of it is an error is a waste of time. Firstly because you can rarely tell to any degree of certainty, and secondly because even if it is, the coin is still valueless. This coin has been beaten like Rodney King, and therefore it is highly likely everything in the vicinity is a result of the damage. Now if you had pulled it out of an OBW with an anomaly, then speculation is warranted. Crescent shaped scrapes are often the result of coin counting machines. You say it is raised, but it looks like pushed metal to me, like everything else on the coin. Not trying to be a downer, but that's just a roughed up coin.

[profiler]

Not a downer at all, Will. I couldn't agree more that it's damaged and that's why I entitled my post, "Likely a vice squeeze job..."

Legendary trumpet player, Dizzie Gillespie, once said, "It took me most of my life to learn what notes not to play." Some of my questions here have the same angle: I want to know what it's not -- first -- so that I can get to what it likely is. So as for its value, I agree, as well. But the value of a lesson with new distinctions? Priceless!

Thank you for those distinctions, Will.