Error Other | Off-center and broadstruck

[willbrooks]

I found this outside while shoveling out the mailbox.
It is off-center and broadstruck. Significantly larger in diameter than normal. Is this what this would officially be called? Hoping for an error guy to give the proper designation. Thanks. A fun coin to look at.

[jallengomez]

Since the full design is present on both sides, I think this would be called an uncentered broadstrike. I need to shovel out my mailbox. lol

[Maineman750]

I'm with Jody...uncentered broadstrike.....but I think off center gets the point across just as well.

[jfines69]

Nice find... No snow here but I will check my mail box any way

[stoneman227]

Definitely fun to look at !

John

[enamel7]

Wow! You just find them everywhere!

[grnwavdav]

Nice one. Was it really just hanging out by your mailbox?

[onecent1909]

wait. the full design is not present on both sides
this is an Off Center strike coin.
to be a broad strike the design as intended has to be there. and the collar not there so that the metal flows outward to make the diameter larger.
the UNITED is cut at the top.
This is an off center strike only.
by definition if it off centered the collar was not in place and it would have the larger diameter. but with out the space between the the top of all of the letters and the area that is the rim is not there it is not a broad strike/off center.... just an off center
In "THE ERROR COIN ENCYCLOPEDIA" By Arnold Margolis and Fred Weinberg Pg 143
"If any part of the design is missing, no matter how small of a portion of that design, because the blank wasn't positioned between the dies to receive the entire design from the dies (either die counts here), Then that coin is considered to be an off center struck coin"

That being said.. Nice coin and not many 2001 off centers that I have seen.

[onecent1909]

basically All off center strikes are struck out of collar and broad struck AND are missing some design detail
but not all broad strikes are off centered strike..because they have every iota of design that a normal coin has.
like
all Lincoln memorials are cents after 1959 but not all cents are made after 1959
If you think of it...
to have the blank land off centered and get struck by dies... the collar can not be engaged and a factor
as the blank must be not inside of the collar to be off centered.

eBay definition: LINK
Jim's coin and stamp: LINK
and lastly....
Mike Diamond's article in Coin World: LINK

basically if the whole design... all of it is there it is a broad strike/ centered or off centered
IF any part of the design is missing... any at all.. even a small small amount.. it is called an off centered strike.

[onecent1909]

Will.. it might be time to change the glossary listing for Broad strike...

[willbrooks]

Looking at all of the information, I would say you are correct, John. Thanks.

[Maineman750]

[QUOTE=onecent1909;285709
all Lincoln memorials are cents after 1959 but not all cents are made after 1959


[/QUOTE]

You mean 1958, right ?

[onecent1909]

OPPPS yes proving a point ..
all Lincoln Memorials are cent made after 1958 but not all cents are made after 1958
Not all things John says are true but all things said about John are not true too ( unless they are good and nice)
John is sick right now... and just a little delirious... need cough suppressant eggnog

[willbrooks]

OPPPS

You mean OOOPS, right?

[onecent1909]

I need to stop posting when I am sick...LOL OOOPs