Greased die error or P.M.D?

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • retiredcopper
    Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 646

    #1

    Error Struck Through | Greased die error or P.M.D?

    I found this coin while searching a box of pennies from my local bank. I need help from the experts here. Is this a major greased die error or P.M.D. The coin weighs 2.5 grams. I have found several other greased die errors in the past but not as dramatic as this one.
    Attached Files
  • enamel7
    Paid Member

    • Apr 2009
    • 4047

    #2
    I'm not an expert per se, but that has the appearance of being struck thru a capped die.

    Comment

    • Roller
      Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 6975

      #3
      The rim being intact, I agree with die cap strike. Nice find.

      Comment

      • joel
        Paid Member

        • Feb 2014
        • 8385

        #4
        Very cool find!! Congrats!!

        Comment

        • GrumpyEd
          Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 7229

          #5
          Looks probable for being struck through a capped die.

          Neat one too, looks like he has a hat.

          Comment

          • enamel7
            Paid Member

            • Apr 2009
            • 4047

            #6
            I've been searching for years and have yet to find one! I know what they look like because everyone else finds them! Lol

            Comment

            • jallengomez
              Member
              • Jan 2010
              • 4447

              #7
              Something looks off to me. I don't like the way the surface is so porous looking. I even see a hole in the plating behind the neck. Almost like acid was left standing on the surface. I also don't like the way the rim looks: like it was clamped in something. Has the same look as an ex-encased almost. Maybe an error expert will chime.
              “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

              Comment

              • GrumpyEd
                Member
                • Jan 2013
                • 7229

                #8
                Those are good points, the scratchyness of the lettering and hole (behind neck) and rim is why I wasn't 100%, but it looks like a zinc (CAM) and if it was messed with would need to be replated after. Being found in the wild is a good sign although it is possible, people can mess and release. That was my thought process that says looks probable as a struck through but not sure.

                One thing to look for is signs of re-plating like any plated over gunk, on the rev is that a deep wound on the rim at 12:00 that might not show zinc like replated after it was there? I'd think a deep sharp wound would show a little zinc if not replated after.

                Agreed, it will be great if an error expert chimes in.

                Comment

                • jfines69
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  The pitting does raise questions??? The rev has split plating and corrosion going on it could very well be a capped die strike with environmental damage... Hopefully one of the pros chime in!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

                  Comment

                  • Roller
                    Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 6975

                    #10
                    I had the same concerns about the porous appearance but reconciled that with the likelihood that at some point during disintegration, the cap certainly may look just like that. Partially torn and porous. I don't think this coin was in bezel because the reverse rim does not show any sign of it. It also appears to me that the die cap may have shifted northward at the time of this strike producing what looks like a lift of the upper portion of Lincoln's head. In short, I still think it is a die cap strike.

                    Comment

                    • jfines69
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #11
                      It does look as if Abe popped his top... I believe you are correct!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

                      Comment

                      • Frank
                        Member
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 1553

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jfines69
                        It does look as if Abe popped his top... I believe you are correct!!!
                        Either popped his top...or it's a Conehead Cent
                        "And he will tell you, skill is late — A Mightier than He —
                        Has ministered before Him — There's no Vitality."

                        Comment

                        • jfines69
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Frank
                          Either popped his top...or it's a Conehead Cent
                          I vote Conehead
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

                          Comment

                          Working...