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  • Zeppelin
    Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 78

    #1

    What is this called?

    Would this be a damaged planchet error? Are these of any value?
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  • Frank
    Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 1553

    #2
    Wow!

    That's either PMD, or the most insane ragged clip I've ever seen.

    Clips can garner a small premium over face, but IDK how to rule out PMD with raggeds.
    "And he will tell you, skill is late — A Mightier than He —
    Has ministered before Him — There's no Vitality."

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    • GrumpyEd
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 7229

      #3
      I think it's not PMD.

      I don't know the answer but the clues I see are, some lamination still intact on the shoulder, and some area STA looks like it never struck up. That implies to me that the area was irregular (had laminations) and might have been at least partly missing when struck.
      Kinda like a ragged area falling apart, like a messy ragged clip. Like I say I don't know but that's how it looks haha.


      See what others think, might need an error expert to be sure

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      • Maineman750
        Administrator

        • Apr 2011
        • 12079

        #4
        We sure could use an error expert chiming in....I'm puzzled as well, but the lack of Blaksley effect has me leaning towards damage
        https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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        • jfines69
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 28848

          #5
          I am with Grumpy on this one... The absence of STA and the E of EPU sways my thoughts... I seem to remember an article by Mike Diamond concerning the lack of the Blakesly effect but I am not sure... Hope he chimes in on this one!!!
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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          • GrumpyEd
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 7229

            #6
            I am with Grumpy on this one... The absence of STA and the E of EPU sways my thoughts... I seem to remember an article by Mike Diamond concerning the lack of the Blakesly effect but I am not sure... Hope he chimes in on this one!!!
            Agreed, it looks possible but confusing. Hope Mike gives his expert opinion.

            That missing STA and E are odd, it looks missing like it wasn't struck up but also looks like some pushed up metal near where the E is gone so it's confusing.
            What sways me towards not being damage is look at the top of E in UNITED, it looks like the top is gone from a lamination and like with most laminations it looks like the top of the E shows on the section under the peel like a lamination.

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            • uglycent
              Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1386

              #7
              Looks like a lamination error that has gotten exaggerated by PMD. Sometimes you just cannot explain some errors.
              Even a fool can look wise if he keeps his mouth closed.

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              • Petespockets55
                Paid Member

                • Dec 2014
                • 6890

                #8
                How about struck through grease (missing letters) and lamination that has fallen away after striking? The field above the building & the E, dot, and P look weak/odd like a greaser.

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                • mikediamond
                  Paid Member, Error Expert

                  • Jan 2008
                  • 1104

                  #9
                  This is a ragged clip.

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                  • jfines69
                    Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 28848

                    #10
                    Thanks Mike Diamond... We appreciate your input... A ragged clip it is!!!
                    Jim
                    (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                    • Zeppelin
                      Member
                      • Feb 2017
                      • 78

                      #11
                      Thanks everyone sorry but is PMD planchet major damage?

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                      • Petespockets55
                        Paid Member

                        • Dec 2014
                        • 6890

                        #12
                        Post Mint Damage. (Damage to the coin after it left the mint, even though damage can occur in the mint but after it was struck. Which is why some call it PSD or Post Strike Damage)

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                        • Maineman750
                          Administrator

                          • Apr 2011
                          • 12079

                          #13
                          Zeppelin, we have a glossary here :http://www.lincolncentforum.com/terminology-list-a/

                          And keep in mind that Mike Diamond is an error expert, so "ragged clip" is the correct answer
                          https://www.ebay.com/sch/maineman750...75.m3561.l2562

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                          • Ordinary Fool
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2017
                            • 97

                            #14


                            Interesting for sure and I am positive I've never been handed anything like that in change or found similar CRH'ing.

                            Where did you get this one?

                            It doesn't appear to have been circulated much at all and I can understand why somebody would have yanked it years ago.

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                            • Zeppelin
                              Member
                              • Feb 2017
                              • 78

                              #15
                              Sorry busy week, and thanks again to everyone I believe I received this in pocket change oddly enough.

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