Error Other | Weird 1928-S Reverse ???

[duece2seven]

I've saved this coin years ago as a possible off-center strike/rim anomaly. I must have been swimming in the 'Nog that night to have missed the weirdness of the lower right wheat stalk. What the heck is that? It's not doubling to my knowledge but I have definitely never seen this before. Is it just a weak strike due to being struck off-center? The obverse is very weakly struck also. This coin is just weird period to me. So much so that if I stare at the date long enough, this coin almost looks fake! I don't know why anyone would attempt to fake a 28-S but something about the date (particularly the design of the 2) just doesn't sit right with me. Opinions much appreciated!

Tracy

[willbrooks]

Tracy, there are some things that are "off" about this coin. I'll look at it close when I get home later. In the meantime, get a close up of the date with the mint mark, would you?

[stoneman227]

Also a detailed shot of the top of the right wheat, the dot between pluribus and unum and the M of unum ,and weight of the coin. As for the date , get a good shot of the top of the 8.
This coin was eather double struck or a soft die double struck counterfeit.

John

A shot of the top of the left wheat as in the viewers left that is.

[enamel7]

It definitely looks suspect to me!

[jcuve]

I'd have to see it in person. I agree something seems off and it could be any of the things already suggested or something else entirely.

[Frank]

Is it just me, or does the bottom of the bust look oddly wider than normal as well...?

[duece2seven]

More pics

Thanks for the replies, guys. I didn't even notice the extended wheat lines on the upper left stalk until John requested pics of it! Nor did I notice the degraded lower left bust or apparently missing designers initials until Frank mentioned the wide bust. OK, here are more pics. Thanks again, guys!

[jfines69]

Looks to me like some one was trying to make the MMS-003 (Large) S MM out of a MMS-002 (Small) S MM... The upper serif looks similar to the large but is not correct and the MM does not look correct for the small either... According to VV the large is rare http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20D...k%20Styles.htm Also the G of GOD does not look correct... It is suppose to be a flat foot on the G according to VV ODV-010 http://varietyvista.com/01b%20LC%20D...0Varieties.htm!!!

[jcuve]

Maybe it is was made from sand cast dies?

[BarryG]

I'm pretty sure that is a sand cast counterfeit. The finish is exactly the same as my counterfeit 1912D sand cast thread. http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...2D-Counterfeit

[jfines69]

I'm pretty sure that is a sand cast counterfeit. The finish is exactly the same as my counterfeit 1912D sand cast thread. http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...2D-Counterfeit

The 2 is also extremely similar... Maybe the same artist at work

[duece2seven]

I finally found my scales and this thing weighed in at 3.1 grams. I honestly expected it to be off a bit on the light side.
I'm not technically sound enough to know for sure but I still feel like there is something off about this coin.

[GrumpyEd]

It's certainly a fake.

[jcuve]

Sand cast fakes devices often have devices that will show shallow impressions. The fields often get sanded down, but frequently around devices (and sometimes within them) there will be this sort of grainy texture I am showing below. I see no reason the forgers wouldn't just use old planchets if the fake can sell for a reasonable amount of money.

[Chugly]

It took me a long time to come to this thread, but thanks for posting this coin! I started off by trying to figure out what would have caused the double right wheat impression. As such, it took me a long time to look at the date. Once I saw that, it was a dead give away to me and screams fake. Scary stuff for people to start faking even these $5-10 price range coins!