1982 Lincoln Clip Error?

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  • GrumpyEd
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 7229

    #16
    There are threads on here about struck throughs where they are struck through a sheared off sliver of rim. I think this might be a coin where it's had the sliver taken off the rim, maybe when ejected. Those other threads were coins struck through the slivers. Someone with good searching skills might find the threads.

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    • TJ1952
      Member
      • Apr 2016
      • 658

      #17
      Originally posted by GrumpyEd
      There are threads on here about struck throughs where they are struck through a sheared off sliver of rim. I think this might be a coin where it's had the sliver taken off the rim, maybe when ejected. Those other threads were coins struck through the slivers. Someone with good searching skills might find the threads.
      Hmmm, okay. Let me go back and try to search thru this mess. Maybe I'll get lucky. I'll post the link/thread back here if I find something. Thanks!

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      • GrumpyEd
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        • Jan 2013
        • 7229

        #18
        Ok, what I'm thinking of are rim burrs. Here's a few threads:

        Found this today. Kinda cool that you can see where the rim came off on the left side and then was struck through on the right side.


        I've found four of these now. A 2011 where part of the rim is detached (exposing zinc), and there is a struck-through of the exact size and shape of the missing metal. Or at least that's my theory. Is anyone else seeing these? Of the four I've found, this is the most significant.

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        • Roller
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 6975

          #19
          I think we're getting far afield here. If it was a shaved rim during striking process I don't think you could tell the difference from PSD in any event. I still think it was sheared after the strike. Note the distortion on the obverse rim just opposite the shearing. I don't think that protrusion could have happened with the obverse portion of the planchet being in collar.

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          • TJ1952
            Member
            • Apr 2016
            • 658

            #20
            Originally posted by GrumpyEd
            Ok, what I'm thinking of are rim burrs. Here's a few threads:

            Found this today. Kinda cool that you can see where the rim came off on the left side and then was struck through on the right side.


            http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...ough-rim-metal
            A Rim Burr. Nice find Ed! That one thread goes back to 2013. Let me digest these. Maybe I'll post my thread on their threads.
            Last edited by TJ1952; 10-28-2017, 05:00 PM.

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            • TJ1952
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              • Apr 2016
              • 658

              #21
              Originally posted by Roller
              I think we're getting far afield here. If it was a shaved rim during striking process I don't think you could tell the difference from PSD in any event. I still think it was sheared after the strike. Note the distortion on the obverse rim just opposite the shearing. I don't think that protrusion could have happened with the obverse portion of the planchet being in collar.
              Hmmm. Okay, let me digest this as well. Thanks Roller.

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              • TJ1952
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                • Apr 2016
                • 658

                #22
                Just a follow-up guys. Not surprising to me, I've never even heard the term Rim Burr before. I just did a quick on-line search. There's a lot of info on Rim Burr's out there!

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                • Roller
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 6975

                  #23
                  Originally posted by TJ1952
                  Just a follow-up guys. Not surprising to me, I've never even heard the term Rim Burr before. I just did a quick on-line search. There's a lot of info on Rim Burr's out there!
                  Yes and mostly, if not entirely, about struck through rim bur. Also, the only way to tell for sure is if the bur is from the coin that was struck through and it matches the shear and contour of the sheared off portion. Otherwise it is just speculation.

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                  • GrumpyEd
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                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7229

                    #24
                    The reasoning is, if the burr piece gets struck through then you can be sure it was sheared before the coin was struck.
                    If all you see is the sheared rim, you might never have a way to tell if it was before during or after strike or even from a counter or roll crimper but it doesn't rule out that it was before strike.


                    In the end.... it's sort of a mute point because a sheared off rim wouldn't really add value no matter when it happened.

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                    • Roller
                      Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 6975

                      #25
                      Originally posted by GrumpyEd
                      The reasoning is, if the burr piece gets struck through then you can be sure it was sheared before the coin was struck.
                      If all you see is the sheared rim, you might never have a way to tell if it was before during or after strike or even from a counter or roll crimper but it doesn't rule out that it was before strike.


                      In the end.... it's sort of a mute point because a sheared off rim wouldn't really add value no matter when it happened.
                      My thinking as well.

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                      • TJ1952
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                        • Apr 2016
                        • 658

                        #26
                        Thanks for your replies and feedback gents!

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                        • onecent1909
                          Wrong Design Die Expert
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 2597

                          #27
                          I think an armature wanted to know Cooper or Zinc and sanded the rim to see.

                          NOTE: see next set of post for armature ribbing and fix
                          Last edited by onecent1909; 10-29-2017, 06:06 PM.
                          Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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                          • Petespockets55
                            Paid Member

                            • Dec 2014
                            • 6890

                            #28
                            Originally posted by onecent1909
                            I think an armature wanted to know Cooper or Zinc and sanded the rim to see.
                            Armature?

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                            • TJ1952
                              Member
                              • Apr 2016
                              • 658

                              #29
                              Originally posted by onecent1909
                              I think an armature wanted to know Cooper or Zinc and sanded the rim to see.
                              Yeah, who's an armature? The rotating coil or coils of a dynamo or electric motor. Not me!
                              Last edited by TJ1952; 10-29-2017, 06:16 PM.

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                              • onecent1909
                                Wrong Design Die Expert
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 2597

                                #30
                                Auto correct.......gets me a lot

                                Lets try amateur

                                As in "my speling isnt profesional its qite like a amater so i need spelchek and not atokerek!"

                                LOL
                                Last edited by onecent1909; 10-29-2017, 06:07 PM.
                                Member: Florida State representative for the ANA, Florida state representative for CONECA, F.U.N. and the Ocala Coin Club

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