Error Other | 1984 doubled reverse possibly?

[Sheila ruley]

Ok, I can't find anything else like this one. Do you guys think that this may be doubled on the reverse?

[Sheila ruley]

[jfines69]

Hard to tell... Your coin is pretty beat up plating wise... Did you check Wexlers??? http://doubleddie.com/828844.html He has several DDRs listed there and the most interesting on yours is UNITED with what looks like notching on the SE corners???

[VAB2013]

Very nice photos Sheila! Jim, there's a good bit of die wear at United and I'm wondering if what looks like notching is a lighting issue. Also the thinning of some of the letters is making me think a worn die and maybe that is what Sheila is picking up on. I could be way off base, just asking. Sheila, Bob will be conducting a learning exercise soon on die states, stages, die wear, etc. so when we see things like this we are trying to ask questions so everyone can learn from it.

[Sheila ruley]

For sure on the bottom left of the D. I did compare to Wexler's and there are no similar die marks on mine. Also, mine seems to have an entirely different stage. That is why I put the question out there.

[VAB2013]

Are ya'll comparing it to Wexler's Die 7

[VAB2013]

We may have lost Jim, I know around 5 pm he has to feed and take care of their birds or they get real rowdy! I'm sorry Sheila, we'll have to wait for some help. I was wondering which Wexler listing you were comparing to so I could look at it also, but really some of the photos on Wexler's site are hard for me to see notching and things because there's some shadows, etc.

[Sheila ruley]

I was comparing it to all the ones with doubling on the reverse. Also, there are no die markers matching either.

[VAB2013]

I was comparing it to all the ones with doubling on the reverse. Also, there are no die markers matching either.

Okay, thank you. I've been looking at them too and I can't tell. I didn't see any Wexler listings that mention notching at United though. This is a tough one, maybe Jim and some of the guys will chime in soon. Sorry... I tried

[makecents]

There is nothing on any of the sites that shows what Sheila has going on here and as Jim said, Wexler has more than most on 84 reverses but no winners. I know its a worn die, circulated coin and a zincoln which opens up a lot of other doors but there looks to be doubling on the inside of the "U", on the left vertical of the "N", "I", "T" and "D" and then of course the heavy notching that Jim mentioned. I'm pretty impressed. I hope some more chime in on this one! Nice Sheila!!

[jfines69]

I do see what looks like a ridge ring developing along UNI which can account for some of the thickness but the west vertical of the U is still fairly thick... I do not really see any thing else where on the coin... At this point I would have to say die wear and what looks like some slide MD going on... This may be a good coin for Bob to come look at???

[VAB2013]

Sorry Sheila if I seemed negative about your find, didn't mean that at all. I've just bombed out lately with some that I thought were doubled dies that ended up being die wear, so when I saw that die wear on your coin it made me wonder if that was what was going on.

Sheila, please PM Bob "mustbebob" and ask him to take a look for you!

[Sheila ruley]

Vivian, that's totally fine!! Not offended at all!! I like learning and I need all the help and honesty I can get!!

[mustbebob]

If this were a true doubled die, we would see significant evidence of the doubling on the entire letter as well as the associated notching. When MD wears down some,it tends to distort, or obliterate all together, the 'step like' features we associate with MD. This coin is the perfect example of MD on a worn die. In addition, circulation wear makes it difficult to easily identify it as such. In a nutshell...not a doubled die. Those are some pretty nice pics though Sheila.

[Sheila ruley]

Thank you so much for that wonderful information! That one was one type I have never seen. Now I will know what I am looking at much easier. And thank you for the compliment on the photos.