Here is a nice 1958D that Cliff sent for me to look at... To me the area SW of the MM appears to be a die gouge... I can not see any sign of a secondary MM???
1958D -Die gouge???
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Jim
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Just a couple of coins to look at... I love a good puzzle... Wait until you see his 85P rev clash... Hopefully I am getting it lined up correctly!!!
Jim
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Really nice images again Jim. It makes it easier to see the gouge.
Thanks to everyone for looking and all comments.
When I enlarged your image it looked similar to the wheat seeds on the reverse but it isn't wide enough I don't believe.
Another case of Pareidolia on my part.Comment
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The 1958 cents were plagued by these wispy die gouges. I've seen this particular die several times, and I'm currently in the middle of a study of these gouged dies. I have well over a hundred different dies with these types of gouges. It was overwhelmingly present in 1958 and I've also found a few examples from 1957 and a couple from 1959. Almost all are Denver minted cents.“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”Comment
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Thank you for the info Jody! It will be nice to hear about your study once it is completed!!!The 1958 cents were plagued by these wispy die gouges. I've seen this particular die several times, and I'm currently in the middle of a study of these gouged dies. I have well over a hundred different dies with these types of gouges. It was overwhelmingly present in 1958 and I've also found a few examples from 1957 and a couple from 1959. Almost all are Denver minted cents.Comment
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Thanks Val. I'll report when it's concluded. I don't know that I'll determine what type of instrument it was that was doing this. These gouges are even found in the deep recessed areas of the die such as the head, neck, and shoulder. The basic takeaway will be to be extremely skeptical of anything that seems like an improbably misplaced mint mark. WRPM-021 comes to mind.“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”Comment
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Thank you Jody. And I like your name for them. "Wispy" die gouges is a very apt description.
Cliff
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Looks like the tip of the west stalks upper seeds... Now i need to do an overlay... Give me a few!!!Really nice images again Jim. It makes it easier to see the gouge.
Thanks to everyone for looking and all comments.
When I enlarged your image it looked similar to the wheat seeds on the reverse but it isn't wide enough I don't believe.
Another case of Pareidolia on my part.Jim
(A.K.A. Elmer Fudd)
Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!
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I did the overlay... The gouge does look close in appearance to the upper seeds of the west stalk however it only appears to be a clash... I am still on the die gouge band wagon... The pair of doilies are working over time
Now if you come across another 58D from this die with more than just the one area showing it may turn out to be something more... Either way good eye ballin' the similarity!!!
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Thanks for the overlay Jim. I didn't notice the similarity until I saw your clear images.
Yes there were 2(?) more from the roll, but they all showed the same anomaly.
It is interesting when someone else has found something odd and able to confirm additional die pairs for the year.
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Were there any other extra gouges or anomalies on any of the others???Thanks for the overlay Jim. I didn't notice the similarity until I saw your clear images.
Yes there were 2(?) more from the roll, but they all showed the same anomaly.
It is interesting when someone else has found something odd and able to confirm additional die pairs for the year.
Jim
(A.K.A. Elmer Fudd)
Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!
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