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  • dinkyblue
    Member
    • May 2015
    • 1285

    #1

    Error Other | 1964 D unknown error

    I posted this 1964 d in the error forum, I'm not sure about this one. I have a couple of 2013p WDDR-001 quarters that have similar features and I'm not sure if penny's share the same thing. I would like to get some comments about the 1964 d cent. Thank you.....................dinkyblue
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  • mustbebob
    Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
    • Jul 2008
    • 12758

    #2
    Your Quarter is a doubled die (http://www.doubleddie.com/1319040.html) whereas the cent is most likely a die gouge or dent.
    Bob Piazza
    Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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    • dinkyblue
      Member
      • May 2015
      • 1285

      #3
      It's not indented, it's raised, I have two of the double die quarters WDDR-001 and the raised area looks similar, the one on the cent is longer. Not sure what it is, but it's not a die gouge or a dent. Thank you for your help ....................Dan

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      • Roller
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 6975

        #4
        Originally posted by dinkyblue
        It's not indented, it's raised, I have two of the double die quarters WDDR-001 and the raised area looks similar, the one on the cent is longer. Not sure what it is, but it's not a die gouge or a dent. Thank you for your help ....................Dan
        It is "indented" on the die and therefore raised on the coin.

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        • mustbebob
          Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
          • Jul 2008
          • 12758

          #5
          George (Roller) already explained it but a die dent is a hit on the die that leaves a raised impression on the coin. I am about 99.9% sure that the anomaly on the cent is the result of a gouge or dent Dan. It is certainly not a doubled die as it does not correspond to the area it is next to.
          Bob Piazza
          Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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          • dinkyblue
            Member
            • May 2015
            • 1285

            #6
            So the die was damaged and left the raised area on the coin. I got it. So these anomalies are just damaged coins from the mint. Thank you for that clarification .........Dan

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            • jfines69
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 28848

              #7
              Cool looking... You also have a little MD on the neck... Nice pics!!!
              Jim
              (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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              • stoneman227
                Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 2086

                #8
                Originally posted by dinkyblue
                So the die was damaged and left the raised area on the coin. I got it. So these anomalies are just damaged coins from the mint. Thank you for that clarification .........Dan
                Dan , you had it right that the die was damaged but the coins are not damaged. It's sort of like coins that show clash marks . They are not coins coming from the mint damaged, they are just coins struck by damaged dies.

                John
                So sad ... My reverse consumption engine was a broken fuel gauge ... gonna look at coins now. John

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                • jfines69
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Originally posted by stoneman227
                  Dan , you had it right that the die was damaged but the coins are not damaged. It's sort of like coins that show clash marks . They are not coins coming from the mint damaged, they are just coins struck by damaged dies.

                  John
                  Thanks for following up on that question... It did not even register with me that Dan was asking about a damaged coin vs a damaged die... Some (actually most ) days I am a little slow!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • dinkyblue
                    Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 1285

                    #10
                    From what I understand it's during the process of making working dies from the working hub, that most of the doubled die errors occur. The quarter that I posted was squeezed in the process to create the double die. Hope I said that right. Good to hear from you Jim, and thank you for your help................Dan

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                    • jfines69
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #11
                      Originally posted by dinkyblue
                      From what I understand it's during the process of making working dies from the working hub, that most of the doubled die errors occur. The quarter that I posted was squeezed in the process to create the double die. Hope I said that right. Good to hear from you Jim, and thank you for your help................Dan
                      I am behind... Things have been hectic and stressful around here the last few months... You are correct... The DDs are created during the hubbing of the working dies... The single squeeze hubbing for lincoln cents started in 1998 (I believe) and prior to the it was a double squeeze method... That's why there are so many different types of DDs, eight types, prior to 1998... Starting in the single squeeze era Copper Coins came up with a 9th type of DD to help with identifying the single squeeze method lincolns from the double squeeze method... Also don't forget we have the Master Die Doubling (MDD) like that on the 1972 lincoln cents... That is why about half of the 72s show doubling... Hope that helps a bit!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • dinkyblue
                        Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 1285

                        #12
                        Good to hear from you Jim, it does take awhile to understand how double dies are created, at least it did for me, I'm sure others catch on much faster. I guess if I worked in that field, it would be easier to understand. Hope you have a wonderful new year, along with everyone else, I'm just happy to still be around another year.................Dan

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                        • jfines69
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dinkyblue
                          Good to hear from you Jim, it does take awhile to understand how double dies are created, at least it did for me, I'm sure others catch on much faster. I guess if I worked in that field, it would be easier to understand. Hope you have a wonderful new year, along with everyone else, I'm just happy to still be around another year.................Dan
                          I still don't understand the doubled dies completely... The different types throw me for a loop... Maybe one of these days but I won't hold my breath I'm happy when I wake up in the morning let alone another year Hope you have a happy new year also... Take care my friend!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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