Error Rotated Die | Double die?

[Guest]

I see extra lettering some of which do not align with the letters it would shadow. Wanted to get a second opinion? 20190208_192802-01.jpg

[Maineman750]

You'll really need to get more specific as to where you think you see the "extra lettering"

[makecents]

I'm with Roger (Maineman750), I cannot tell anything from the pic and don't know exactly where you are seeing this.

[jfines69]

I zoomed in and looked as best I could but all I see is Post Strike Damage (PSD)... If you could point out where you think there is some doubling that would help!!!

[Morgue]

Above "ONE"

[enamel7]

I see some paredolia, but that's it.

[jfines69]

I zoomed in again but the pic blurs a little to much to tell for sure... Best I can tell is there may be some Machine Doubling (MD)... Here is some info from our Glossary -

Machine Doubling (Also Machine Damage Doubling, or Strike Doubling): This occurs when a loose die bounces (push-type machine doubling) after the initial strike and hits the planchetagain in a slightly offset position, flattening a portion of an already struck device, creating a “shelf-like” doubling effect that cuts into the normal size of the device. This is often misconstrued as a doubled die by novices, but is common and essentially worthless. Sometimes the die will “slide” rather than bounce, creating a smeared look to the devices. (slide-type machine doubling). Ejection doubling is another form of machine doubling where the coin “sticks” to the anvil die when being ejected from the striking chamber. In addition to the examples below, please see Jason Cuvelier’s excellent tutorial Here.

Also have some info on Error Ref that may help - http://www.error-ref.com/?s=machine+doubling make sure to get to the bottom of the page as there are 2 more pages... Hope that helps a bit... If that is not what you think it is then lest us know... Try to get a closer pic so we can help you out!!!

[Petespockets55]

Yep, Die deterioration or plating issues after it left the mint?

[Morgue]

I find that quite rude was that really nessicary? A few others I know have looked and agreed they see it as well but are not into coins. I asked if someone else had a second opinion not a medical diagnosis. It's the best picture I could get...

[jfines69]

I find that quite rude was that really nessicary? A few others I know have looked and agreed they see it as well but are not into coins. I asked if someone else had a second opinion not a medical diagnosis. It's the best picture I could get...

I am sorry you found the comments as rude and a medical diagnosis... I do not believe Enamels comment was not intended to be rude or a medical diagnosis... All of us have and do see things on the coins that are very visible but there is no known way in the die making or maintenance process to produce what we see... It all comes down to Post Strike Damage (PSD)... As for your pic just do the best you can with what you have... When I first started taking coin pics it would take me hundreds of pics to get one semi usable and that is no joke... I call pareidolia my pair of doilies I also tend to over anal eyes a coin I see a lot of designs on a coin and will even post some of the cooler ones that I can get to show up on a pic... Here is the definition of Pareidolia from our Glossary -

Pareidolia: The phenomenon where people see patterns or objects in otherwise random data. People often “see” extra design elements that aren’t really there in a coin’s damaged areas, plating blisters, stains, etc.

Hope that helps a bit!!!

[Maineman750]

Morgue, you'll find that in the variety and error fields, if you want the truth, it is very much like a medical diagnosis and dealing more with fact than opinion. That's just the way it is....I see nothing offensive posted.

[GrumpyEd]

I was looking at my drywall. I see a very clear guy with wings in the texture. That is what paredolia is. It happens on coins and clouds and anything that is random, I see devils, letters and all sorts of things that are not there but they look like they are.

If you find Jesus on your sandwich you get 28K! It's a real diagnosis not an insult.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4034787.stm

[enamel7]

My response wasn't meant to be rude, just to the point. It's wrong to sugarcoat everything because it might hurt feelings. My guess is that they saw the images after you pointed them out. Sorry, but there's nothing there.