Error Other | 1988 P strike through or doubling in hair?

[Sheila ruley]

I am not sure what is going on with this. Can anyone tell? 8011FD66-8018-457E-8F55-F16904FD485E.jpg 827D80AC-2848-4A82-B4B4-09F207792E09.jpg 31D9BFE2-C963-4694-8F1D-D73583A0A3D9.jpg 065FBD73-8B5F-4A52-BAB8-D124D449A3A3.jpg BF1CCA4C-494E-4A91-93B4-12730212769A.jpg 74D418CA-FBF1-435F-B3B2-1D7FEE2081A2.jpg 870D59DE-B255-4C7C-8528-804BF66FB121.jpg

[VAB2013]

Good question Sheila! I've not seen anything like this before. It looks like a series of bumps but doesn't really look like PSD or die chips. Let's see what the guys say, I am clueless!

[Sheila ruley]

Good question Sheila! I've not seen anything like this before. It looks like a series of bumps but doesn't really look like PSD or die chips. Let's see what the guys say, I am clueless!

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And it doesn’t look like a plating disturbance to me either.

[makecents]

That is odd looking but would lean towards plating issues. You can see something similar on the forhead and maybe at LI of LIBERTY. What's odd to me is on the reverse opposing the areas on the obverse that we are seeing the anomaly. At the base of the memorial, it looks almost like a clash of the head from the obverse but distorted. It doesn't look to be abraded either. Odd....

[Petespockets55]

I believe I have seen grease cause anomalies like this.
Usually it leaves a flat area but occasionally it looks rumpled or wavy.

[VAB2013]

Jon and Cliff have brought up some very good points! Sheila, can you get close ups of the anomaly at the hair, forehead and at LI of LIBERTY?

[Sheila ruley]

Jon and Cliff have brought up some very good points! Sheila, can you get close ups of the anomaly at the hair, forehead and at LI of LIBERTY?

here you go. 547AD9F9-A705-4AA6-87F9-6852DF7F1F61.jpg 5725C1AD-A867-4795-8DB1-BBE4F1EB735E.jpeg FB7E6BE6-9A25-4752-AF60-F7309915E1AE.jpg 39C1F9A1-D667-456B-BA2F-8A3EAFC38069.jpg 0FF6754E-8C68-44C2-B0EF-3ADC9E639190.jpg

[VAB2013]

Nice photos Sheila, thank you! Now lets see what the guys think!

[Petespockets55]

Thanks for the extra images Sheila.
That raised line below B of LIBERTY (a very symmetrical gouge?) seems to be die damage and the forehead anomaly seems raised also so I'm leaning towards die damage as well.
The circular area at LI area and at the back of the head are harder for me to tell if raised or incuse but they remind me of areas struck through grease.

I would be inclined to think they are all probably associated with the same event somehow.

[makecents]

Thanks for the nice extra pics Sheila, they look great!! I'm pretty much with Cliff on everything he said. The forehead in one pic looks similar to what's in the hair but in another it looks like a gas bubble that just took a hit in the center of it. What's above "LI" looks to be the same anomaly in the hair though.

[Sheila ruley]

Thank you so much for your help everybody! I have never seen anything like this before. It was pretty confusing to me. Now I know what I’m looking at next time I see it.

[jfines69]

I'm in on the struck thru... Maybe floating incrustation??? Info from Error Ref http://www.error-ref.com/?s=struck+through scroll to the 2nd entry... Also what Jon pointed out that looks like a clash looks more like a ghost abe to me... Also known as indirect design transfer by Error Ref - http://www.error-ref.com/?s=indirect...n+transferHere is info from our Glossary -

Progressive Indirect Design Transfer: A form of die deterioration that manifests itself in the form of a “ghostly” image of a design element on the opposite side of a coin. The force of a die strike travels through the planchet and into the opposite die. After hundreds of thousands of strikes, the outline of the designs begin to transfer to the opposing die and show on the coins that are struck. In the case of Lincoln cents, it is common to see a ghostly outline of Lincoln’s bust on the reverse of wheat cents that are struck in later die states. It is especially visible on uncirculated coinage. This should not be confused with a die clash or a “greasy ghost.” First photo courtesy of forum member TJ1952.