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Just wanted to know if this qualifies as a retained cud (precud). Let me know what the verdict is. Also this photo is taken from phone for I don't have Ray's camera setup done yet.
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Finally a photo
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A retained cud is not the same as a pre-cud. I hope you haven't seen it defined that way. This whole retained cud thing is a complete mess.Last edited by willbrooks; 05-11-2019, 04:24 AM.All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.Comment
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Ok explain it for me will Brooks because I didn't know that.Life is not about greatness but on the impact of good onto others. It is a matter of how much one shines. Explains why I like shiny coins.Comment
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I see cuds-on-coins is now using the term precud. This is a much better term than retained cud. In essence "retained cud" is a subset of "precud." A precud includes all stages before the piece is actually missing. It is a rim-to-rim die crack that may also show some displacement. When there is displacement, it tends to be automatically called retained cud. The problem with that is that there will be displacement long before the piece has broken free. Therefore, there really is no way to know if the piece is still attached or has broken free. In light of that, I feel that the term "retained cud" should just be retired. Next up, retained interior die break.
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So this is a rim to rim die crack based on what you are saying and not a precud?Life is not about greatness but on the impact of good onto others. It is a matter of how much one shines. Explains why I like shiny coins.Comment
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I would classify it as a precud. A rim to rim die crack is a precud without any displacement.
I only object to the use of "retained cud" to describe every rim to rim crack that shows displacement. Hopefully this practice is in the rear view mirror now.Last edited by willbrooks; 05-11-2019, 09:31 AM.All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.Comment
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Cool... Glad to see you got a pic... I can not tell for sure if there is any displacement so for now it is a rim to rim crack... Is the term Precud going to take the place of rim to rim crack and retained cud??? Here is Error Refs info on the different types of retained cuds... Is the fone pic giving your coin the orange peel look??? Here is the definition from our Glossary -
Orange Peel: A somewhat nebulous term to describe a coin whose surface has a textured bumpy surface like that of an orange. Coins can get this orange peel look from different causes including annealing and polishing issues of the die, or from die deterioration, or also from plating problems on plated coins.
Here is info from Error Ref!!!Jim
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