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  • mikediamond
    Paid Member, Error Expert

    • Jan 2008
    • 1104

    #16
    Originally posted by willbrooks
    Mike, there's something bothering me that I can't resolve withan your explanation. Why, if this is the impression of the die's peripheral field, that we see both edges of this "field " well defined into the striking die, when it is, of course, only present on the offending die's interior curve? If anything, it appears stronger on the outer curve, which wouldn't hit the die at all, or at least not nearly as strongly, and hard to imagine if tilted enough to do so, would leave other interior remnants as you noted. Hope my question is understandable. I'll be happy to elaborate further. Thanks.
    As I mention in my article, the outer (convex) side of the ridge was generated by the die fragment being driven into the reverse die at an angle (tilted down). The inner (concave) side of the ridge represents the top of two incuse peripheral letters. These are better seen in this image:
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    • willbrooks
      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

      • Jan 2012
      • 9477

      #17
      Oh, wow! That image is great. Thanks. My initial thought is that that isn't the periphery of a die at all, at least not a cent die. I'll see if I can find something solid to contribute.
      Last edited by willbrooks; 06-17-2022, 02:59 PM.
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      • mikediamond
        Paid Member, Error Expert

        • Jan 2008
        • 1104

        #18
        Always happy to entertain alternative hypotheses.

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        • Petespockets55
          Paid Member

          • Dec 2014
          • 6884

          #19
          Thanks for the extra image Mike. It helps me a lot to visualize the devices below the rim. Thanks for the extra help comprehending this.

          Originally posted by willbrooks
          Oh, wow! That image is great. Thanks....
          I agree that's a great image and I think I finally got it to sink in.

          The raised curve is actually the field between the rim and a possible pair of letters (TA of STATES maybe?).

          I'm interested to see what you come up with.

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          • mikediamond
            Paid Member, Error Expert

            • Jan 2008
            • 1104

            #20
            Yeah, it could be the AT of STATES (backward, of course) or the AM of AMERICA. Hard to say for sure.

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            • willbrooks
              Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

              • Jan 2012
              • 9477

              #21
              Originally posted by mikediamond
              As I mention in my article, the outer (convex) side of the ridge was generated by the die fragment being driven into the reverse die at an angle (tilted down). The inner (concave) side of the ridge represents the top of two incuse peripheral letters. These are better seen in this image:
              Right. Ok. I think I misunderstood what you were getting at at first. I better-would (as we Amish say) go to the newsstand and actually read it first. Lol. .
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              • duck620
                Member
                • Apr 2009
                • 2909

                #22
                Nice find Bob Congrats!(Read the article in coin world )
                "2012 Finds HERE"

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