1984 P Mad With Peculiar Rim.

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  • makecents
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    • Jun 2017
    • 11038

    #1

    Error Mis-aligned Die | 1984 P Mad With Peculiar Rim.

    Ran across this today in a Loomis roll. Is this nothing more than a misaligned die? It just looks different to me. The rim goes from being filled to having a doubled rim with a lower area in between the two "rims". I think I have seen this before but not this extreme.

    Thanks.
    Jon.
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  • makecents
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    • Jun 2017
    • 11038

    #2
    I think I talked myself through it last night, it just looked really odd to me.
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    • willbrooks
      Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

      • Jan 2012
      • 9477

      #3
      I'm still waiting on those steaks. Did you overnight them?
      All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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      • makecents
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        • Jun 2017
        • 11038

        #4
        The steak is in the mail.

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        • Petespockets55
          Paid Member

          • Dec 2014
          • 6890

          #5
          I like this one Jon. It's invigorating one of my "curiosity" spasms for these zinc cents.

          I'm still trying to find information on whether the current process for producing the 1 cent planchets is the same as the copper ones, previously.

          Specifically, where the proto-rim is applied. At the production facility in Greenville, Tenn. or the mint.
          And what was done to them to eliminate the split plating that used to be so prevalent. I have found no first-hand knowledge of the process.

          Everything I look into goes into "Schultzie" mode and knows nothing. ("Hogans Heros" for those that need the reminder.)
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          • willbrooks
            Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

            • Jan 2012
            • 9477

            #6
            Originally posted by Petespockets55
            I like this one Jon. It's invigorating one of my "curiosity" spasms for these zinc cents.

            I'm still trying to find information on whether the current process for producing the 1 cent planchets is the same as the copper ones, previously.

            Specifically, where the proto-rim is applied. At the production facility in Greenville, Tenn. or the mint.
            And what was done to them to eliminate the split plating that used to be so prevalent. I have found no first-hand knowledge of the process.

            Everything I look into goes into "Schultzie" mode and knows nothing. ("Hogans Heros" for those that need the reminder.)
            Nice fingerprint.
            All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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            • TPring
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              • Sep 2017
              • 3120

              #7
              Originally posted by Petespockets55
              ("Hogans Heros" for those that need the reminder.)
              Ahh, the good ol' days.
              If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice -- Freewill

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              • Petespockets55
                Paid Member

                • Dec 2014
                • 6890

                #8
                Originally posted by willbrooks
                Nice fingerprint.
                How can you tell it's not roller lines applied during an earthquake?

                I was hoping you might have contacts that might know about the modern process for zinc cents?

                It seems like the mint (or the planchet producer) has mostly solved the problem with splitting of the zinc plating. I don't recall that problem jumping out at me lately.

                Anyone????

                Originally posted by TPring
                Ahh, the good ol' days.
                Back when you could get original rolls for a decent price.

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                • willbrooks
                  Die & Design Expert, LCF Glossary Author

                  • Jan 2012
                  • 9477

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Petespockets55
                  How can you tell it's not roller lines applied during an earthquake?

                  I was hoping you might have contacts that might know about the modern process for zinc cents?

                  It seems like the mint (or the planchet producer) has mostly solved the problem with splitting of the zinc plating. I don't recall that problem jumping out at me lately.

                  Anyone????


                  Back when you could get original rolls for a decent price.
                  When I asked Jarden's a question about their processes, they did not reply.
                  All opinions expressed are not necessarily shared by willbrooks or his affiliates. Taking them may result in serious side effects. Results may vary. Offer not valid in New Jersey.

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                  • Petespockets55
                    Paid Member

                    • Dec 2014
                    • 6890

                    #10
                    Originally posted by willbrooks
                    When I asked Jarden's a question about their processes, they did not reply.
                    Unfortunately, that was my experience as well. On multiple occasions. I think they (Jarden Zinc) have become less accessible/friendly since being acquired by Artazn. It seems like they have no need to be customer "friendly" since they face no competition.

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                    • jfines69
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 28848

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petespockets55
                      Unfortunately, that was my experience as well. On multiple occasions. I think they (Jarden Zinc) have become less accessible/friendly since being acquired by Artazn. It seems like they have no need to be customer "friendly" since they face no competition.
                      They claim it as trade secrets!!!
                      Jim
                      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                      • jfines69
                        Member
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 28848

                        #12
                        Nice find!!!
                        Jim
                        (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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