1983 counterclash (the big one) CLO-001

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  • jcuve
    Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
    • Apr 2008
    • 15458

    #1

    [Example] 1983 counterclash (the big one) CLO-001

    Here is the first example of CLO-001 (or CCL(T2)-1c-1983-01) I have seen in person. Picked it up at the ANA show. Listed in the CPG as FS-401 (FS-035.3)

    I agree with the hypothesis that the broken part of the die from the reverse (the CUD) was probably struck by the obverse die 3 times (or at least in 3 locations). First was squarely on IBER; this is where the initial impression was taken. There is as an arc of die damage west of the I (black arrows), consistent with the curvature of a Lincoln cent, supporting the idea it was part of the broken die. The metal with the first impression shifted southeast, and at this point, both transferred IBER back to the obverse die offset from the first, as well as took a second impression of IBER, also offset. There was shift and the final impression of a now doubled IBER was sunk in above the date. If you look closely you can see IBER is doubled, with the B being clearest.

    This is an incredible coin.
    Last edited by jcuve; 08-18-2012, 06:12 PM.



    Jason Cuvelier


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  • liveandievarieties
    TPG & Market Expert
    • Feb 2011
    • 6049

    #2
    Wow Jason! That coin is fantastic! Congratulations on this exceedingly rare coin!
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    • jcuve
      Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
      • Apr 2008
      • 15458

      #3
      Thanks Chris.

      I should add that he die was abraded heavily. The abrasion seems to be pre-counterclash. I am detecting a strong conventional clash or double clash entirely separate and earlier.



      Jason Cuvelier


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      • Roller
        Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 6975

        #4
        That's a nice pick-up. Congrats.

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        • tea-party
          Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 1091

          #5
          Thats a nice pick up there.. I never seen or heard of this one. Now it seems like Im on the hint for this one as well!!!

          John
          (John) This is only one way to go in my world and that's forward, without a reverse!

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          • Antiquity
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1590

            #6
            wowza, awesome pickup and photos Jason. Lovin it.
            THOMAS J.

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            • mikediamond
              Paid Member, Error Expert

              • Jan 2008
              • 1104

              #7
              Congratulations on adding this rare counterclash to your collection. I'm sure it didn't come cheap. One day I hope to have the same opportunity. Here's a bit more information on this and several other Type II counterclashes: http://www.coinworld.com/articles/ne...-cent-only-si/

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              • DCW
                Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 2085

                #8
                This is one that is on everyone's want list for sure. Never seen one in person either. Congrats!

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                • pman860507
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 1577

                  #9
                  Very cool coin and great pictures.
                  Casey Parman

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                  • Vickilynn
                    Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 728

                    #10
                    Fantastic coin ! and great pictures, thanks for sharing. Vickilynn
                    VickiLynn
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                    • Coppertop
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 596

                      #11
                      wowie nice

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                      • jallengomez
                        Member
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 4447

                        #12
                        Nice pick up Jason. Thanks for sharing.
                        “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”

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                        • busyeye
                          Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 1920

                          #13
                          Jason it's awesome, WTG! Sir Diamond, that's great info thank you.

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                          • jcuve
                            Moderator, Die & Variety Expert
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 15458

                            #14
                            I almost fell out of my chair. I thought the guy had CLO-002, and was like, "The one with the CUD on the reverse? You have that one?" I was happy to see it, but to have one is pretty cool.



                            Jason Cuvelier


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                            • Rollem
                              Administrator

                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2823

                              #15
                              All I can say is awesome Jason! Congrtas

                              Jamesbvg
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