2001D what is that?

[dvn]

Congratulations Jean on a terrific find!

This is a most unusual doubled die reverse. Actually, it is a tripled die reverse and some might be thinking how can one have a TDR with the "single-squeeze" hubbing process? Well, it can happen and Jean's 2001-D is a classic example of it.

I have photos shot of the coin but awaiting another package to come in today that I will most likely need to shoot photos on as well. I'm in a holding pattern for the moment till the mail runs. Hopefully, sometime later this evening I will have the photos back on Jean's coin and will post a few to show you. Yes, if you are wondering, I take photos the old-fashioned way, with film.

Billy

[1sgret]

Billy: Can't wait till you post the pic's and looking forward to them. Way to go Jean!!! AGAIN!!!!!!!!

[dvn]

Here is the photo I took of Jean's coin which is now officially assigned in my files as 2001-D 1c CDDR-003.

Though the doubling itself is not major, but how it occurred is really what's valuable.

This DDR is actually a tripled die reverse (TDR). How does one get a TDR from a "single-squeeze" hubbing process that was supposed to eliminate doubled dies?

On Jean's coin, I have placed arrows labeled #1, #2 and #3.

Arrows #1 and #2 point out the doubling of the flutes of both Memorial columns #6 and #7. Arrow #1 is the flutes of column #6 while arrow #2 is the flutes of column #7. If you would visualize in your mind a rotation point in between those two separate flute remnants and rotate CCW about 55 degrees they will fall on the highest points of the primary columns #6 and #7 matching to the flutes. This occurred during the initial start or what we call the first "pass" of the working hub (positive image) to sink its design into the working die (will become negative image for striking coinage).

Since the hub is a positive image, something happened at the moment of what we call "kiss" of the hub to the die. It left an impression of those highest points (flutes of columns #6 and #7 which are at the center) onto the working die since it is cone shaped. But, some malfunction (probably a tilt and/or mis-alignment) caused the process to stop. The operator had to back out so as to be able to re-set and continue with the hubbing process again. At this time, when he/she re-set there was a rotation of about 55 degrees. This is why flute remnants at arrows #1 and #2 are slanted (rotated).

Now the hubbing is started again and then there is a slight tilt and snap right at the end of the process. This final squeeze (or pass) covers up most but leaves those highest points of the flutes which we see pointed out by arrows #1 and #2.

However ...

With this last snap back in alignment, we now get doubling on column #7 again just to the west that is pointed out by arrow #3. That doubled column now makes the tripled die reverse!

A most unusual coin that helps in providing more insight on how these doubled dies (and TDR's) happen.

Congrats Jean and I hope the photo meets your expectations. I did shoot many other photos of your coin on various die markers to help collectors identify this particular variety and will be illustrated in my upcoming CD. Your coin will go out in tomorrows mail. Thanks again Jean.

Billy

[JeanK]

Thank You So Much Billy!!!
Believe me, I am still totally baffled about how you figured out all of this.
It is quite beyond my comprehension. What I don't know about the minting process could fill a book. I am so glad you and others are filling books with reference material.
Tell you what, I will keep looking and you keep attributing...
Welllll, okay, you can look, too.
Jean

[Daggit]

WTG Jean congrats!!!

[JeanK]

Hey Daggit,
Good to hear from you.
Thanks for checking in on this one. It still has me saying "What?". But I am sure not going to challenge the experts. I have gotten to like most of what they tell me, even if it isn't that great.
Expect a pm from me...
Jean

[1sgret]

Excellent synopsis on the coin Billy! Great pic's (Did you learn from JeanK)? (LOL) Just kidding and it is nice to see a TDR off a Schuler Press. Thanks for sharing!

Jean keep up the good finds and Daggit good to see you back.

[Daggit]

It sure is an awesome find and yes those images make me envious! Thanks for the welcome back, I've scanned through a lot of recent finds of everyone and congrats. Would take toooo long to comment individually but koodos to all. Work has kept the coins on the back burner but wiill be back searching again and have 5 bank boxes to keep me busy, happy hunting everyone!