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  • seal006
    Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2330

    #1

    New 1911 RPM?

    Received this coin in the mail today as part of a trade. To me it looks like a split upper serif. What do you think?
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  • pennies4pennies
    Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 3293

    #2
    To me it looks like a hit. Just my opinion.
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    • papascoins
      Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1202

      #3
      I have to agree that it must be a well-placed hit.
      Mark

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      • WaterSport
        Paid Member

        • Nov 2010
        • 3292

        #4
        A little secret about the 1911 D rpm series...its more about die cracks and other markers than seeing the actually RPM. Got any OBV or REV pics of this cent???

        WS

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        • seal006
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 2330

          #5
          Originally posted by WaterSport
          A little secret about the 1911 D rpm series...its more about die cracks and other markers than seeing the actually RPM. Got any OBV or REV pics of this cent???

          WS
          Are you suggesting that all 1911-D RPMs have die cracks? I am suggesting that this is an unlisted RPM. There are very few listed.
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          • liveandievarieties
            TPG & Market Expert
            • Feb 2011
            • 6049

            #6
            There are 4 different RPMs for 1911-D.

            As Bob stated, each has it's unique markers. Bob has studied and taken the time to learn the markers for each variety (some of the markers are indeed die cracks on the reverse as he noted).
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            • seal006
              Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 2330

              #7
              There are four "known" RPMs for 1911-D, just like there were 18 "known" for 1963-D, until I found #19 & #20. My question is not if this is one of the four listed. I am quite confident it is not. I am wanting to know if it looks as if it could be a "new, unlisted" RPM.
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              • simonm
                Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 6398

                #8
                I think it is a coincidental hit.
                My old coin album.

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                • cimperialis
                  Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1968

                  #9
                  I couldn't call it based on these photos. I agree it looks possible, and need better inspection. And I agree that while there are four known 1911 D RPMs, there could be more out there.
                  -Sean
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                  • eaxtellcoin
                    Paid Member

                    • Jan 2008
                    • 2086

                    #10
                    Sean, This one is to far gone from wear and die stage. I wouldn't waist the $$ on it because of the two things stated earlier in this post. This coin, "even if it were an RPM" would not get listed. Just my opinion...

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                    • seal006
                      Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 2330

                      #11
                      No money wasted. I picked it up in trade, not as an RPM, but just as a 1911-D cent. It was something that just caught my eye when I examined it after it arrived in the mail. It was worth a shot.
                      "If Free Speech stops when someone gets offended, it is not really Free Speech."

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                      • WaterSport
                        Paid Member

                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3292

                        #12
                        With exception Of RPM #1, yes, they all have a die crack(s) Some Obv, some Rev some both sides including the questionable D/S variety.

                        I do not think your coin is of high enough grade to determine if its a new RPM. Thus I was asking if you have any die cracks to guide you to it being a known variety.

                        WS

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