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  • Petespockets55
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    • Dec 2014
    • 6890

    #1

    Can lightning strike twice?

    I cannot imagine this is the same variety 2017 that I found last week. Here are the images and let me know what you think. Thanks for everyone's help. Cliff
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  • makecents
    Paid Member

    • Jun 2017
    • 11038

    #2
    Holy cow Cliff!! Now that is sweet!! The first to find one of your own new varieties too! That one looks to be in fantastic shape too. Congrats, again!!

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    • engine823
      Member
      • May 2011
      • 1342

      #3
      Super!!! I can't say it it is the same variety or not but you sure are hot on those 2017 P Shield Cent DDO's!!!

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      • GrumpyEd
        Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 7229

        #4
        It wouldn't be that unbelievable, sometimes a bunch of one variety get distributed to the same area.

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        • ERRORCENTS
          Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 711

          #5
          Pete hello that die is WDDO-001 in the Wexler Files....Very nice find indeed..

          Patrick
          Patrick G.

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          • VAB2013
            Forum Ambassador
            • Nov 2013
            • 12351

            #6
            Yes and yes! Wow Cliff, I do believe it's the same discovery doubled die you just found! Now that is sweeeet! Looks like the markers match, you may find a few more too! Congrats! Bet you are thinking there's another discovery lurking in those boxes you just got! HOPE SO!!!

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            • VAB2013
              Forum Ambassador
              • Nov 2013
              • 12351

              #7
              Originally posted by ERRORCENTS
              Pete hello that die is WDDO-001 in the Wexler Files....Very nice find indeed..

              Patrick
              This is a new doubled die that Cliff just found the first one a few days ago! The marker on the Shield is similar but Wexler Die 1 does not have doubling on IGWT and Cliff's new discovery does!

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              • Petespockets55
                Paid Member

                • Dec 2014
                • 6890

                #8
                Originally posted by ERRORCENTS
                Pete hello that die is WDDO-001 in the Wexler Files....Very nice find indeed..

                Patrick

                Thanks Patrick, it was fun to find.
                But the only part that looks similar to me is the gouge on the edge of the shield above the E of E PLURIBUS.
                The thickness on the date is different and Wexler doesn't mention the thickness on TRUST that this one has. And there is no way he could miss that U.

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                • jfines69
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 28848

                  #9
                  Way to go Cliff... Sure looks like your new one... Remember that the opposing dies may or may not be the same!!!
                  Jim
                  (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                  • Petespockets55
                    Paid Member

                    • Dec 2014
                    • 6890

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jfines69
                    Way to go Cliff... Sure looks like your new one... Remember that the opposing dies may or may not be the same!!!
                    Thanks but I'm not sure I follow you Jim.
                    Opposing dies?

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                    • makecents
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                      • Jun 2017
                      • 11038

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Petespockets55
                      Thanks but I'm not sure I follow you Jim.
                      Opposing dies?
                      I think Jim is referring to the obverse and reverse possibly being different Cliff.

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                      • Petespockets55
                        Paid Member

                        • Dec 2014
                        • 6890

                        #12
                        Originally posted by makecents
                        I think Jim is referring to the obverse and reverse possibly being different Cliff.
                        Thanks Jon. As in...... the revese being changed out, which would indicate a different stage?
                        But both coins exhibit the chip on the shield over the E (reverse) and the doubling on the obverse.
                        Maybe he's referring to polishing or die wear that could affect a marker on these such as a die dot.

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                        • jfines69
                          Member
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 28848

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Petespockets55
                          Thanks Jon. As in...... the revese being changed out, which would indicate a different stage?
                          But both coins exhibit the chip on the shield over the E (reverse) and the doubling on the obverse.
                          Maybe he's referring to polishing or die wear that could affect a marker on these such as a die dot.
                          Since yours is a DDO the rev die can be different if it were changed out... Still the same DDO just a different rev making it a different die stage/state... Didn't mean to cause any confusion there... Sorry about that!!!
                          Jim
                          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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                          • Petespockets55
                            Paid Member

                            • Dec 2014
                            • 6890

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jfines69
                            Since yours is a DDO the rev die can be different if it were changed out... Still the same DDO just a different rev making it a different die stage/state... Didn't mean to cause any confusion there... Sorry about that!!!
                            So you were just mentioning that if the dies were changed......
                            Got it thanks. Takes a while to sink into my pretzel sometimes.

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                            • TJ1952
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                              • Apr 2016
                              • 658

                              #15
                              Brilliant find Cliff!

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