1984P does this reverse look doubled?

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  • VAB2013
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    • Nov 2013
    • 12351

    #1

    1984P does this reverse look doubled?

    Does this look like the doubling on an 84P DDR? Not in the best shape, but it got my attention.
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  • stoneman227
    Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 2086

    #2
    Viv , I have had lighting give a doubled look in this area and fool me , http://www.lincolncentforum.com/foru...light=1989+ddr , but it sure does appear to have some doubling going on !

    John
    So sad ... My reverse consumption engine was a broken fuel gauge ... gonna look at coins now. John

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    • enamel7
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      • Apr 2009
      • 4047

      #3
      Hit the light from a different direction and see how it looks.

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      • VAB2013
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        • Nov 2013
        • 12351

        #4
        Thank you John for taking a look and helping! Here is another angle on the R - AMERICA, and the E-ONE and T-CENT. I'm really trying to get a decent pic but this little Lincoln is kicking my tail!

        Going to drop it in some mineral oil for the night and call it a day
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        • VAB2013
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          • Nov 2013
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          #5
          Originally posted by enamel7
          Hit the light from a different direction and see how it looks.
          Thank you enamel! How are you doing bud! LOL... I've been fooling around with this one for about 30 minutes! It's ugly for one thing and the color is weird even though my LED's make everything purple! But, it would just be nice to know if what I'm seeing is something... or just lights messing with me

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          • GrumpyEd
            Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 7229

            #6
            That might be where the edge of the letter has a ramp instead of a sharp edge maybe from die wear then light catches it and makes it look like a split. You can probably tell best in hand with a loupe instead of a scope because you have quicker control of the angles and lighting.

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            • VAB2013
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              • Nov 2013
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              #7
              Originally posted by GrumpyEd
              That might be where the edge of the letter has a ramp instead of a sharp edge maybe from die wear then light catches it and makes it look like a split. You can probably tell best in hand with a loupe instead of a scope because you have quicker control of the angles and lighting.
              Thank you Ed! Well, when I look with my loupe it looks about the same but not as detailed. What is Bob referring to on the E of One, is there like a split on the center horizontal? Also, the T CENT has separation on the top of the T and I see that. If I didn't see all the other stuff I would resort to die wear but I'm being stubborn I guess

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              • enamel7
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                • Apr 2009
                • 4047

                #8
                Originally posted by VAB2013
                Thank you enamel! How are you doing bud! LOL... I've been fooling around with this one for about 30 minutes! It's ugly for one thing and the color is weird even though my LED's make everything purple! But, it would just be nice to know if what I'm seeing is something... or just lights messing with me
                I'm doing great Viv! Finished my last in home therapy today. Start outpatient therapy next Wed. I'm ahead of where I was last year, mainly due to all of the setbacks I had. I actually got to drive for the first time today!

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                • VAB2013
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                  • Nov 2013
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by enamel7
                  I'm doing great Viv! Finished my last in home therapy today. Start outpatient therapy next Wed. I'm ahead of where I was last year, mainly due to all of the setbacks I had. I actually got to drive for the first time today!
                  That is great news enamel! Wow, already driving! So glad you are doing good and ahead of schedule!

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                  • makecents
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                    • Jun 2017
                    • 11038

                    #10
                    I ran into similar looking doubling when I started searching with my scope. It is a great piece of equipment but the LED's will create something that is not there sometimes. Enamel and Roller walked me through the same coin I think. It ended up being lighting and deterioration.

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                    • hasfam
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                      • May 2009
                      • 6291

                      #11
                      Hi Viv, I've been out of the game for a while so might be a little rusty, but this looks like an optical illusion from the lighting source. I'm not seeing any doubling, but that's just me.
                      Rock
                      Rock
                      My LCR Photo Album of Graded Lincoln Cent Cherry Picker Varieties

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                      • mustbebob
                        Lincoln Cent Variety Expert
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 12758

                        #12
                        There is some precedent for the notching in this year. I list one on coppercoins and John Wexler lists a few. My first opinion is that this is in fact a doubled die.
                        Bob Piazza
                        Former Lincoln Cent Attributer Coppercoins.com

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                        • VAB2013
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                          • Nov 2013
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by hasfam
                          Hi Viv, I've been out of the game for a while so might be a little rusty, but this looks like an optical illusion from the lighting source. I'm not seeing any doubling, but that's just me.
                          Rock
                          Hello Rock! Very nice to see you! Thank you so much for dropping by and taking a look! Hope this means we get to see more of you this year!!!

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                          • VAB2013
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                            • Nov 2013
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by mustbebob
                            There is some precedent for the notching in this year. I list one on coppercoins and John Wexler lists a few. My first opinion is that this is in fact a doubled die.
                            Thank you so much Bob! I'm trying to soak off some of that crud right now and will try again with different lighting but I'm afraid I don't have what it takes on this one. Can I please send it to you?

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                            • hasfam
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                              • May 2009
                              • 6291

                              #15
                              Well, that's great news on the coin attribution. Like I said, I'm a bit rusty (not that I had much skill in the first place LOL).
                              Yes Viv, great to see you again too. I'm hoping to stick with it this time. Since my ordination in 2014 its been non stop.
                              Rock
                              My LCR Photo Album of Graded Lincoln Cent Cherry Picker Varieties

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