1927 DDO-002, 2-O-IV Plate coin examination

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  • centMD
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    • May 2013
    • 714

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    1927 DDO-002, 2-O-IV Plate coin examination

    I asked Cliff to borrow this coin to try to determine if it was the same die as Wexler's WDDO-002. (http://doubleddie.com/581934.html) (http://varietyvista.com/01a%20LC%20D...927PDDO002.htm). From the eyelid position, the doubling looks to be in roughly the same position, and strength of the extra eyelid is also very similar. Unfortunately, I am unable to find any of the markers that are present on WDDO-002 on the DDO-002.

    However, DDO-002 does have a few markers of it's own. There are no obverse markers able to be identified by me. As for the reverse, A SSW die scratch is present in the E of UNITED. Two short SSE die scratches are present in the upper E of AMERICA. Prominent die flow lines can be seen in the lower O of OF and lower second S of STATES.

    My conclusion at this point. Three possibilities exist. The coins are the same obverse die with different reverses. The coins are the same obverse die with the same reverse in different die states. The coins are different obverse doubled dies. I have to assume based on my analysis that it currently the third should be assumed correct, and that these are considered two different doubled dies. It is possible that someone else can prove they are the same die at some point in the future, but for now they should not be considered the same. Examination of the Wexler plate coin found by Russ LeBeau would likely rule in/out the connection, but unfortunately I don't know Russ myself.

    Dan

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  • Petespockets55
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    • Dec 2014
    • 6890

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    Dan, Thanks for the update, examination and images of this one for us.
    The die markers of the reverse are very helpful. Hopefully someone here may know Russ and put the two of you in touch.

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    • jfines69
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      • Jun 2010
      • 28848

      #3
      Can you get full obv/rev pics???
      Jim
      (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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      • centMD
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        • May 2013
        • 714

        #4
        Originally posted by jfines69
        Can you get full obv/rev pics???
        No, I'm afraid I can't get them very easily.

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        • jfines69
          Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 28848

          #5
          Originally posted by centMD
          No, I'm afraid I can't get them very easily.
          Oh well... Thanks for the follow up... That extra eyelid is extremely close in location but I think you are correct on them being different DDOs!!!
          Jim
          (A.K.A. Elmer Fudd) Be verwy verwy quiet... I'm hunting coins!!! Good Hunting!!!

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